Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
July 28, 2016, 08:27:16 AM
Home Help Login Register      
News: Check out: FlightSimCon 2016 June 11-12, 2016


+  LiveATC Discussion Forums
|-+  Air Traffic Monitoring
| |-+  Aviation Audio Clips (Moderators: dave, RonR)
| | |-+  "Near Miss" (JFK Tower / NY TRACON documentary)
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3 Go Down Print
Author Topic: "Near Miss" (JFK Tower / NY TRACON documentary)  (Read 66147 times)
cessna157
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 708



WWW
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2008, 06:38:48 AM »

There was a nice little documentary made a few years back, primarily about New York Approach (N90).  It included working conditions, controller-controller relations, and looks into some controllers' lifestyles. 

If I remember correctly, the documentary's name was "Pushing Tin"
Logged

CRJ7/CRJ9 F/O, Travel Agent
Beantown
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 41


« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2008, 04:52:04 PM »

Does anyone know if the controller in the original post is still working at JFK?
Logged
aevins
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 255



« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2008, 04:54:55 PM »

He's retired
Logged
glencar
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 176


« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2008, 05:33:53 PM »

There was a nice little documentary made a few years back, primarily about New York Approach (N90).  It included working conditions, controller-controller relations, and looks into some controllers' lifestyles. 

If I remember correctly, the documentary's name was "Pushing Tin"
I didn't get to see that doc but I know the one guy in it used to go home & stare at his fish tank, right? He's still a bit of a dullard.
Logged
Yegger
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 201



« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2008, 05:36:30 PM »

I liked the tower guy at LGA the best. Really seemed on top of things.
Logged
hapysed
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 2


« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2008, 08:58:46 PM »

About 2 minutes into the "Inside Air Traffic Control" video they feature a clip of a man with a moustache talking about the complexities of ATC.  That's Paul Renaldi the Vice President of NATCA. 
Logged
goowe
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 59



WWW
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2008, 09:35:03 PM »

I didn't get to see that doc but I know the one guy in it used to go home & stare at his fish tank, right? He's still a bit of a dullard.

I think this is the news article he's talking about... nonetheless, a neat article!

http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~jeffj/ny_tracon.html

Logged

Alton (Joe) Anderson - AltonAnderson.com
Facebook me!
cessna157
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 708



WWW
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2008, 11:19:40 PM »

I didn't get to see that doc but I know the one guy in it used to go home & stare at his fish tank, right? He's still a bit of a dullard.

You mean to tell me that you, an air traffic controller, has never seen Pushing Tin?  Wow, that surprises me.


Glad to see that I'm not the only one that found the guy who goes home and stares at his fish tank was a bit odd.

After a rough day of flying, I like to come home and sit in front of the TV and stare and gaze into the TV for hours.......and then I'll turn it on.
Logged

CRJ7/CRJ9 F/O, Travel Agent
nar1224
Guest
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2008, 04:52:11 PM »

Thanks for finding that full version, it was real interesting.  Not sure how you managed to find it though, but thanks!
Logged
glencar
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 176


« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2008, 05:55:01 PM »

I didn't get to see that doc but I know the one guy in it used to go home & stare at his fish tank, right? He's still a bit of a dullard.

You mean to tell me that you, an air traffic controller, has never seen Pushing Tin?  Wow, that surprises me.


Glad to see that I'm not the only one that found the guy who goes home and stares at his fish tank was a bit odd.

After a rough day of flying, I like to come home and sit in front of the TV and stare and gaze into the TV for hours.......and then I'll turn it on.
I probably didn't have the channel at the time. I've seen snippets of it. And yes, that guy's a bit of an odd duck.
Logged
cessna157
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 708



WWW
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2008, 07:56:58 AM »

Thanks for finding that full version, it was real interesting.  Not sure how you managed to find it though, but thanks!

"I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you"

That's from another documentary. This a Navy documentary called "Top Gun"
Logged

CRJ7/CRJ9 F/O, Travel Agent
N90-EWR-TX
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 4


« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2013, 03:21:11 PM »

I didn't get to see that doc but I know the one guy in it used to go home & stare at his fish tank, right? He's still a bit of a dullard.

You mean to tell me that you, an air traffic controller, has never seen Pushing Tin?  Wow, that surprises me.


Glad to see that I'm not the only one that found the guy who goes home and stares at his fish tank was a bit odd.

After a rough day of flying, I like to come home and sit in front of the TV and stare and gaze into the TV for hours.......and then I'll turn it on.
I probably didn't have the channel at the time. I've seen snippets of it. And yes, that guy's a bit of an odd duck.

Thats pretty funny considering I also thought of you as one hell of an odd duck since the first day you arrived from Cleveland center.
Logged
InterpreDemon
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 513



« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2013, 10:50:55 PM »

It might be a bit off topic, but is a "near miss" a glancing impact, or a full blown collision?
Logged

Feed Purveyor:
KJFK ARINC
KHPN ATIS
(KJFK) NY DEP Liberty East
HF CAR-A  3455/5550/6577/8846/11396
HF ARINC LDOC  6640/8933
HF NY VOLMET  6604

Complaints should be addressed to: City Hall
757-rules
Guest
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2013, 05:10:01 AM »

It might be a bit off topic, but is a "near miss" a glancing impact, or a full blown collision?

 cool Yep, that is off topic  cheesy
Logged
chtechinc
Guest
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2013, 01:35:33 AM »

In the doc Near Miss, the controller working in the KEWR tower is Glenn Doffy who bought his kid to work a few years ago at KJFK
Logged
nickn
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 6


« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2013, 04:16:39 AM »

Logged
denverpilot
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 27


« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2013, 02:20:35 PM »

I always think of George Carlin any time I hear the term, "near miss"...

Wasn't it a "near hit"?! Wink
Logged
flyby88
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1


« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2013, 05:55:49 PM »

i know this is an old thread but Near miss is currently available on 4od in the UK, its free might just need to use a uk proxy
Logged
joeyb747
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 1623


Nothing Like A 747!


« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2013, 07:54:00 AM »

I always think of George Carlin any time I hear the term, "near miss"...

Wasn't it a "near hit"?! Wink

"...look, they nearly missed..."
"YUP, but not quite!!"

RIP George Carlin...
Logged

Aircraft Mechanic
UnitedFlyer737
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 56



« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2013, 11:46:19 PM »

Thanks for the documentary.
Logged

Just another aviation enthusiast.
almkennedy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3


« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2013, 03:09:42 PM »

I just happened to have the full 45min documentary on one of my old CD's that I used for backups back in those days.  I've uploaded it to my Dropbox, the link is here --->

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12975789/Near_Miss_(by_apapele182).wmv

Please don't stream it from the internetz, just right-click and download. The file is about 82mb.

There's some amazing stuff in there. Yer man at LGA is pretty cool, Dave Schoen in the tower at JFK seems unfazed by lost traffic going the wrong way. Towards the runway. In the fog. At JFK.

There's some great shots of the NY TRACON, not to mention some scary Newark stories from a man whose name I don't recall but who spends a lot of time in front of fish tanks following a near-miss.  And then there's Glenn, being very fidgety over at Newark talking to the camera while in the background a man in a very 80's jacket desperately tries to get his attention back to the 5000 planes that are waiting for takeoff by waving a pencil in his face. Classic stuff so it is.

Enjoy!
« Last Edit: August 01, 2013, 03:35:39 PM by almkennedy » Logged
UnitedFlyer737
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 56



« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2013, 04:00:52 PM »

Thanks for the documentary Shocked
Logged

Just another aviation enthusiast.
alphazulu
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 24


« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2013, 09:28:08 PM »

Thanks Almkennedy!
Logged
almkennedy
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3


« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2013, 12:49:09 AM »

No problem.

Is Glenn working again? And what about the other ATC'ers featured - are they still around?
Logged
Dngnkeeper
Jr. Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 80


« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2013, 09:58:32 AM »

Thanks for the upload.

I wonder what the controllers of today would have to say if they went back to remake this today? Which things changed and what is the same?
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!