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« on: April 23, 2006, 11:25:27 PM »

This was a close call near Buffalo tonight (Sunday)at around 10:15pm, listen to this!

  Dan

(http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kbuf.m3u)http://
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2006, 12:40:43 AM »

First mistake she made after getting control of the airplane is to keep going. I would of landed at the nearest airport. Maybe changed my shorts and continued flying the next morning if the weather was better.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2006, 07:44:06 AM »

Sorry its such a big file, my version of audacity would only let me export it as a WAV. file. I bet my friend Peter could turn it into a MP3!

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2006, 08:16:40 AM »

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Sorry its such a big file, my version of audacity would only let me export it as a WAV. file. I bet my friend Peter could turn it into a MP3!

  Dan


Hi Dan,

I turned it into MP3, but I'm running out the door and don't have time to upload it.  Ill be sure and get it up by this afternoon.

Jason
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2006, 09:12:28 AM »

Thanks Jason,
  Pretty tense moments last night, glad everything worked out ok.

 Dan
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2006, 09:18:17 AM »

I found a link that shows her flight path. You can see it takes her right over Buffalo.


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1278Chttp://
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2006, 09:24:28 AM »

Try this one....

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1278C
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2006, 11:38:10 AM »

Interesting how she regained control at 6500' which also happens to be 0C (freezing level)

I would have probably landed at the nearest airport and figure out why I wasn't paying attention to the icing.

I dont like how she was like "I have the auto pilot on now, everythings fine". Thats what probably got her in trouble in the first place.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2006, 03:03:08 PM »

Wow, Dan, another incredible clip!

Those damn Cessna Caravans have quite a terrible history with icing encounters.    The FAA is currently re-evaluating the known icing certification for the Caravan, due to several icing accidents over the last ten years.  

She is one lucky pilot.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2006, 03:06:46 PM »

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Actually, that is not the track.  The tail ID was 1278L.

Here is the track history:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1278L/history/20060423/2119Z/KEWK/KBGR/tracklog

While the graphic doesn't depict the dive, the track history from the link above shows the dive in the form of a major deviation of altitude.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2006, 03:13:30 PM »

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Sorry its such a big file, my version of audacity would only let me export it as a WAV. file. I bet my friend Peter could turn it into a MP3!


Here is the MP3 file.  Not too much smaller, however:
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 03:18:30 PM »

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I would of landed at the nearest airport. Maybe changed my shorts and continued flying the next morning if the weather was better.


Then, in addition to explaining the emergency situation, she'd have also have to explain to her boss why the cargo wasn't in Bangor on time. I'd bet that the majority of pilots in her situation (not just weather, but employer pressure), would have weighed the relative consequences, and electd to press on. (Ours is not to judge which would have been the better decision, although we can certainly speculate about what we'd have done personally.)

One has to wonder though, whether the airframe was subject to any excessive loads during the excursion. I'd certainly do a *thorough* preflight before the next takeoff....
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 03:18:32 PM »

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Sorry its such a big file, my version of audacity would only let me export it as a WAV. file.


Dan, to use Audacity to create MP3 files, simply copy this one DLL file attached here  into the Audacity program folder (unzip this file first, of course).  Relaunch Audacity and you will now have the option to produce MP3 files.

EDIT:  Cannot attach a ZIP here, Dan.  Send me your email address and I will email it to you.  (pjricc@gmailX.com - remove the capital letter)
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 03:22:36 PM »

I did see there was 2 similar flights and picked the wrong one. Check out the speed also, down to 106 knots!

 Dan
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 03:27:10 PM »

I found the file for audacity and now can make an MP3 file, thanks.

 Dan
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