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« on: November 22, 2007, 02:26:23 PM »

British Airways flight 287 from London Heathrow to San Francisco "go around". Declares a minimum fuel advisory and diverts to Oakland. Flight 287 refuels and departs Oakland back to San Francisco, yet to have another "go around".

Recorded in two parts:

Part 1: Inbound from Heathrow to San Francisco. (retrieved from archives)
Part 2: Push back from Oakland to "taxi to the ramp at San Francisco". (personal recording)

San Francisco switched landing configurations due to weather that evening (Saturday November 10, 2007). Arrivals were on 19 instead of 28. Same with Oakland with arrivals on 11 instead of 29.

View flight pattern in the attached photo, and hear "Speedbird 287 Heavy" in part 2 of the recording and watch them fly around San Francisco Bay.

Using a Uniden 785D with an Austin Spectra antenna. Recordings made using line encoding input on a Creative ZEN MP3 player. Audacity was the audio editing program.
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KOAK Del/Gnd/Twr
KSFO NORCAL App Rwy 28L/R
KSFO Tower/Ground
NORCAL Approach (KOAK)
NORCAL Departure (KSFO/KOAK)
KSJC NORCAL Approach #2
ZOA Oakland Center (35/40/41)


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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 05:36:14 PM »

were you in oakland when this happened because there is no KOAK freq on the site if you have one you should put it on the site
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2007, 06:08:16 PM »

were you in oakland when this happened because there is no KOAK freq on the site if you have one you should put it on the site

But NorCal approach which covers both SFO and OAK are available, so it might have been covered there..

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 08:02:00 PM »

yea but norcal does not cover OAK tower does it.  The freq is 127.2
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 08:33:31 PM »

I never said that it did.. But if it was in the archive, and was mentioned in the clips, one of the feeds in that area does cover it. I don't run that particular Norcal feed, so I don't know.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 09:28:47 PM »

Well at least they were living up to the "speedbird" callsign
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2007, 11:39:01 AM »

Hi Air Canada AJ,

Yes, you're right. This site does not have Oakland tower 127.200 Mhz. I initially caught Speedbird on Oakland's clearance delivery and thought it was unusual hearing a British Airways making a short hop across the bay to San Francisco. That's when I started recording using my setup. I went back into the archives to get "Part 1" which I didn't hear live.

Just a note on the archives. It seems the recordings are shifted 24HRS behind actual time?

KN
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KSFO NORCAL App Rwy 28L/R
KSFO Tower/Ground
NORCAL Approach (KOAK)
NORCAL Departure (KSFO/KOAK)
KSJC NORCAL Approach #2
ZOA Oakland Center (35/40/41)


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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2007, 04:06:30 PM »

Hi Air Canada AJ,

Yes, you're right. This site does not have Oakland tower 127.200 Mhz. I initially caught Speedbird on Oakland's clearance delivery and thought it was unusual hearing a British Airways making a short hop across the bay to San Francisco. That's when I started recording using my setup. I went back into the archives to get "Part 1" which I didn't hear live.

Just a note on the archives. It seems the recordings are shifted 24HRS behind actual time?

KN

So tell me if i have this right, your the person who supplies the KSFO feeds?   So all you did was change freqs?  I was just wondering because when im in the states I fly into OAK all the time.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 04:46:39 PM »

Sorry, I'm not the guy who supplies the KSFO feed.
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KOAK Del/Gnd/Twr
KSFO NORCAL App Rwy 28L/R
KSFO Tower/Ground
NORCAL Approach (KOAK)
NORCAL Departure (KSFO/KOAK)
KSJC NORCAL Approach #2
ZOA Oakland Center (35/40/41)


RJTT App/Dep
RJTT Tokyo Control
RJTT Twr/TCA
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2007, 05:33:45 PM »

If you can pick up Oakland, you should consider a feed. I'd listen to that alot.  grin
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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2007, 05:38:57 PM »

Hi Fryy,
I may just do that once I get my setup in order. Thanks for suggesting it. wink
Ken
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KHWD Ground/Tower
KOAK Del/Gnd/Twr
KSFO NORCAL App Rwy 28L/R
KSFO Tower/Ground
NORCAL Approach (KOAK)
NORCAL Departure (KSFO/KOAK)
KSJC NORCAL Approach #2
ZOA Oakland Center (35/40/41)


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« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2007, 05:59:36 PM »

if you could set that up that would be awsome grin
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2007, 12:01:56 AM »

The women NorCal approach controller sounds like an auctioneer.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2007, 07:10:02 AM »

Seems interesting he would accept an approach he was uinable to do, two missed approaches use a hell of a lot more fuel than holding for a little bit to get an approach onto 10 or 28.  Interesting listening nonetheless.
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 12:41:09 PM »

It seems that in the second recording @ 7:12 the crew of 287 missed the speed restriction of 160 knots issued by ATC because it was stepped on. I think had the crew slowed down as requested they would not have had to go around the second time. To me the controller isnt at fault here. He knew 287 was faster and asked them to slow down...

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