Engine fire plus funny stuck mike at JFK

[flightnerd]

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Last night at around 20:00 local, EDT I was listening to JKF tower.  They had just put a ground stop on departures because of thunderstorms moving in.  First in the clip you hear some static or whatever, the tower guy says to "check your clicker."  Then this plane calls saying he has a possible engine fire on the ground.  All of a sudden this captain gets on, and give a passenger briefing to the tower!  he forgot to switch over to the plane's intercom.  The reactions are pretty funny.

[snipper_cr]

Oh the harasment the occurs when PA calls happen, heh heh.

I love how every one tries keying the mike while he's talking and you hear the freq overlap.

[dan9125]

What did he mean by he fired both his bottles into the engine? Some type of fire extinguisher bottles ?

  Great clip by the way.

  Dan

[coz]

Great Clip

[djmodifyd]

that is hilarious

I've had one pilot do that once...but it was at night and slow so there was only one or two other aircraft so nothing funny happened.....i just told him he was broadcasting on ground.

[dljone3]

What did he mean by he fired both his bottles into the engine? Some type of fire extinguisher bottles ?

Yes, he's referring to the fire extinguishers in the engine.

[Hollis]

Dan9125:
Yes, those are highly pressurized fire extinguisher cannister 'bottles' located in the engine compartments, normally 2 per engine. They are actuated manually by the pilot/co-pilot.
In most cases though, they aren't used unless there are visible flames or smoke observed, since the majority of fire warning alarms are triggered by a sensor fault, as what appears to have have been in this case.

[MathFox]

In most cases though, they aren't used unless there are visible flames or smoke observed, since the majority of fire warning alarms are triggered by a sensor fault, as what appears to have have been in this case.

You are on the ground and need Maintenance for the faulty sensor anyway... Replacing the halon bottles does not add much to the delay.

[Flyingnut]

Being fairly new to listening to LiveATC.net and KJFK, does anyone know who the controller is on this clip?  I have heard him on KJFK Tower always wishing the departures, "Good flight, great day."

Thanks!

Marty

[fholbert]

What did he mean by he fired both his bottles into the engine? Some type of fire extinguisher bottles ?

Yes, he's referring to the fire extinguishers in the engine.

Had the same call once from the ramp and we rolled the trucks. The Fire Department was looking at the engine and for some reason the flight deck decided to fire the bottles unannounced. The Fire Department saw what they think is smoke started pumping foam into the engine. The pax and flight attendants see the FD spring into action. Before cooler heads prevailed one of the slides was deployed. 

[cessna157]

Had the same call once from the ramp and we rolled the trucks. The Fire Department was looking at the engine and for some reason the flight deck decided to fire the bottles unannounced. The Fire Department saw what they think is smoke started pumping foam into the engine. The pax and flight attendants see the FD spring into action. Before cooler heads prevailed one of the slides was deployed. 

Yeah, that's one of our fears as flight crew members.  We hope the CFR fellas don't do anything without us knowing, unless something is blatently wrong.  The flight attendants are not supposed to evacuate unless something is wrong in the cabin (smoke/fire).  An engine/APU fire is really not that much of a problem.  If it catches fire, we'll comepletely isolate it from the airplane.  If it keeps burning, we'll fire one of the bottles into it.  If it still burns, we'll fire the other bottle.  If it STILL burns, oh well.  It'll just keep burning and eventually just fall off of the airplane.  Its designed to do that (its only held on by 3 bolts).  We'll obviously not taxi back to the gate, because nobody wants a burning airplane next to a building.  But a hurried evacuation isn't always necessary as it will just cause more confusion, panic, and injuries.  If its stilll burning at that point, we'd just deplane onto the taxi way (that's the advantage of having airstairs).

[Jason]

Yeah, that's one of our fears as flight crew members.  We hope the CFR fellas don't do anything without us knowing, unless something is blatently wrong.  The flight attendants are not supposed to evacuate unless something is wrong in the cabin (smoke/fire).  An engine/APU fire is really not that much of a problem.  If it catches fire, we'll comepletely isolate it from the airplane.  If it keeps burning, we'll fire one of the bottles into it.  If it still burns, we'll fire the other bottle.  If it STILL burns, oh well.  It'll just keep burning and eventually just fall off of the airplane.  Its designed to do that (its only held on by 3 bolts).  We'll obviously not taxi back to the gate, because nobody wants a burning airplane next to a building.  But a hurried evacuation isn't always necessary as it will just cause more confusion, panic, and injuries.  If its stilll burning at that point, we'd just deplane onto the taxi way (that's the advantage of having airstairs).

...but I've always wanted to pull the slide and ride it onto the taxiway like a little kid in a playground.  Well, nevermind.    Interesting stuff though, thanks for the info.  Same principles apply to the Citation just about.

[nar1224]

Can I get some peanuts? LMAO, that's great!

[dan9125]

I thought you just said the engine is only held on by 3 bolts ....now they are removing bolts to make planes lighter! 

 

[cessna157]

Well, they're really big bolts.  Actually, our guys can completely do an engine change on the RJ in about 8-10 hours.