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KASWspotter
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2008, 10:46:46 PM »

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You're not serious are you? Name one major that flys the 900. BTW the RJ part of CRJ is "Regional Jet"
     

   Way to step right into a conversation you know nothing about. I'd suggest you refrain from that type of stuff here. We know he flies the CRJ-200. If you read the previous statement that the CRJ9 is bigger than a DC9 and uses the same landing gear as 757, you'd understand that is moving to heavy metal for him. Keep an open mind and don't act like a know-it-all. These forums are friendly and I'm grateful to be able to interact with the folks that are employed in the aviation industry, both controllers and pilots alike. Im neither but have been an aviation freak for a long time. I enjoy coming here to learn everything I can. One of the reasons I never joined ANET was because of the sarcasm that goes on in the forums there. All I ask is to please keep it nice for everyone involved.
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2008, 05:20:02 PM »

well since we're on the topic of "heavier" metal....Colgan Airways based in Manassas, VA. (Flights out of IAD)  are getting rid of thier Saab 340s and going to the Dash 8 402Q.
The DH8D, cruises at about 280kias at 13,000ft.  i had one almost run over a couple of kingair's going up to TEB yesterday. 

They don't have B757 gear (nor does the rj), but the DH8D is a sweet ride!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1307374/L/
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2008, 05:29:43 PM »

<drool>

I'd love to fly the Q400.  I've heard nothing but good things about them.  They don't have that pesky little annoyance of the landing gear coming up on landing like the 200 does I hope?
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2008, 08:21:23 PM »

yeah...they fold up into the engine cowlings. 

who do you fly for?
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2008, 09:24:41 PM »

I'm a CRJ 700/900 driver for OH
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2008, 12:20:43 AM »

I heard that as well not too long ago about the Dash 8's. Have they started integration yet or when do they plan to start? Cessna I have another question for ya. What road did you take to get to where you are? Im just curious. I was out at our airport today and signed up to start lessons in April. Ive finally read enough books, flight simmed, and flat out driven my wife crazy talking about aviation. She threw the checkbook at me and said just go do it or you'll regret it. I think the final straw was when she saw me typing on this forum last night at 1230 am. Im still never gonna let her have the window seat until Im doing the flying though. evil
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2008, 12:29:04 AM »

Movin up to the heavy metal.

Here's a picture of the CRJ 900 in Lufthansa colors, cessna's heavy metal...realllllll big  grin

(I just had to wink...we love you man!  Thanks for answering my earlier questions)

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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2008, 07:47:31 AM »


Here's a picture of the CRJ 900 in Lufthansa colors, cessna's heavy metal...realllllll big  grin

Haha, well when you put the 2 together, it kinda takes my thunder away.  Actually, that's a CRJ100/200 (my old bird).  My new metal is much larger than that tiny thing.  First day in the sim today.......eeeek

Here's an awesome picture of my "heavy metal":
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2008, 09:16:27 PM »

Why do people keep saying the CRJ 900 has the same gear as a 757.  Looks nothing like a 757 gear but what exactly if anything is the same?
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2008, 11:10:27 PM »

The tires are the same, and rumor has it pieces of the strut are identical.  I realize that the landing gear trucks are vastly different (2 tires per main vs 4).  I'm not sure, I just flew the sim for the first time today.  It's landing gear looks like a huge spider.  I'm just telling you what they told us in systems.  I should be in the airplane late next week.  I'll let y'alls know
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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2008, 11:12:48 AM »

they've replaced at least one saab with the dash 8.  not sure when the whole fleet is gonna get replaced
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2008, 10:07:42 PM »

I think the improper use of phraseology on the controller's part had a lot to do with the aircraft going into the grass.  "Do this quickly" is never mentioned in FAO 7110.65, nor I am assuming any JFK LOA.  He thought that a go around was not possible on the aircraft behind him because of the controller's tone.  The New Yorker's attitude is not a substitute to posted air traffic phraseology.  Sending the trailing aircraft around would have caused a lot less work overall. 
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2008, 01:32:16 AM »

Back to the original post... I almost feel sorry when he says "and tower [...] we're off in the grass," because you know the pilot realizes how much trouble it's going to cause. Darn JFK and their ridiculoulsy expedited operations.
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2008, 08:55:46 PM »

Yeah, tower shouldn't have gotten on them like that.  But there's nothing we can do about it.  That goes into the file called "Well, its JFK, they're just doing the best they can."  My company did that for a while.  But lately they've been cleaning up the JFK operation.

On a side note, I'll be flying into JFK tomorrow (Thursday) around 15:45ish as COM202 from AUS in a CR9.  Then we depart Friday afternoon as COM17, headed down to ATL in a CR7 at 13:30.  I'll be thinking about all you guys when I'm taxiing around JFK getting yelled at for not using the grass.
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2008, 10:53:28 PM »

Doesn't Comair hire really low time "flying academy" pilots? Could this have been a factor?
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