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« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 05:17:25 AM »

Doesn't Comair hire really low time "flying academy" pilots? Could this have been a factor?

Well, No.  Comair's mins are higher than quite a few other airlines.  Could this have been a factor in what?
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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2008, 03:23:05 AM »

Well Comair's mins are 600TT and through Delta Connection Academy they hire with lower TT.  I am a ATP own a small flight school and I was trying to teach a new jet F/O to fly a tailwheel that came from a "flying academy" and from what I can tell that these schools focus a lot on the excellent 121 style CRM training , procedures and extensive knowledge but this student was lacking on basic airmanship and aircraft control when the "unexpected" would happen in a fabric tailwheel.  I have seen pilots handle a 180 with 60 hours TT much much better than this student in a Taylorcraft.  A fabric taildragger is a completely different type of airplane to fly I know, but I was just wondering after this recent experience if maybe a low-time F/O was the flying leg pilot and possibly was flustered when a non-routine request was issued, and if this may have been a factor in running into the grass.  I would think a more experienced pilot would throw out a Part 91.3a qoute to that controller if needed and maintain control of the airplane.    You sir I respect as a fellow professional pilot, I have read and enjoy your posts on this site,  and I am not trying to imply anything negative about the company that pays for your lunch.  Fly Safe!
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« Reply #32 on: February 08, 2008, 06:03:31 AM »

asrlb45, your theory about this mishap is just speculation... (or you should point to a source that shows that the pilot handling this plane had limited experience.) Did you consider other potential factors like fatigue and distraction?
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« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2008, 06:55:47 AM »

asrlb45, your theory about this mishap is just speculation... (or you should point to a source that shows that the pilot handling this plane had limited experience.) Did you consider other potential factors like fatigue and distraction?

I think we can all agree that there were many factors involved in the incident that are simply unknown to us without some definitive information from a trusted source.
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« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2008, 01:44:13 PM »

I agree as well.  I was just wondering if the possibility of a low time pilot could have been a single factor in a very minor incident obviously a result of some sort of pilot error.   
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