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« on: February 12, 2014, 02:46:11 PM »

Just another typical day of listening to Military Air Traffic training off the Atlantic Coast of Florida...

This recording was made about an hour ago.

FANG callsign is that of Florida Air National Guard F-15's
THUMPER callsign is the backend call of an E-3B out of the 552nd Air Control Wing, Tinker AFB.
The frequency was 293.600 MHz.

The best I can tell, this training was taking place about 60 miles East of Jacksonville.

Enjoy,
George
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2014, 10:23:38 AM »

Would love to have some of those comms translated. Sounds very interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2014, 02:10:45 PM »

If you understand military brevity codes it makes quite a lot of sense. That is the primary "language" of fighter pilots.
For example: when they talk about "Bulls" they are referring to a reference point (usually a VOR or set of coordinates) that they measure their heading and distance from. So a call of "Target, bulls two seven zero, thirty five" would mean that the target is due west of Bullseye at 35 NM.

You can find most of the multiservice tactical brevity code here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiservice_tactical_brevity_code
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2014, 08:33:00 AM »

BRA is a big one you'll hear in my recordings, AWACS will say "FANG1 BRA 290 20 26000 HOT HOSTILE" 

That is AWACS telling  FANG  (FL Air National Guard F-15 in this case) the Bearing, Range, Altitude of Hostile Target.

Another common one is WINCHESTER, that means the fighter is out of weapons.

And the one my ears will perk up for is "PUSH TO"  When you hear PUSH TO and a series of numbers, those number are the frequency he is switching to.  Great way to find new frequencies.  Sometimes you'll hear "PUSH TO 7 AUX".  Just like your car radio, some military radios have pre-set buttons, in this case he's going to switch to the frequency labeled 7AUX.  Or sometimes it might just be a frequency card and he'll look for the freq labeled 7 AUX.

George
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2014, 06:57:54 AM »

.. as an old mil controller, this is very fun to listen to. Kudos to the poster.
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 02:16:31 PM »

Just another typical day of listening to Military Air Traffic training off the Atlantic Coast of Florida...

This recording was made about an hour ago.

FANG callsign is that of Florida Air National Guard F-15's
THUMPER callsign is the backend call of an E-3B out of the 552nd Air Control Wing, Tinker AFB.
The frequency was 293.600 MHz.

The best I can tell, this training was taking place about 60 miles East of Jacksonville.

Enjoy,
George
www.MilAirComms.com


Great work!  Kudos.
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 09:39:23 PM »

Forgot to ask. Will this be posted at milaircomms?
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 07:44:29 AM »

I wasn't going to post it to my MilAirComms.com website, for us its an average run-of-the-mill audio recording.  Us down here in Central FL hear it everyday. 

I had just posted it to LiveATC.net to share with others who don't normally get to hear that kind of stuff.

But if you would like I can post it on MilAirComms.

Thanks for Listening,
George
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« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 08:16:28 AM »

I personally would appreciate it since I could share it with a few buddies (vets) who do not have a LiveATC login. Perhaps they could hear it on your site without having to create an account (at least for the tine being).  This particular recording, to me as an "outsider" is equally as interesting as other clips I've listened to on your site.  You provide a wonderful service to low-tech old farts like me.  grin
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 02:01:07 PM »

You got it, not a problem.  I just uploaded it to my website.  You can check it out here:
http://milaircomms.com/audio_library.html

I'm sure your friends might have fun listening to some of the other recordings on that page, its all Military or NASA comms....Also just uploaded the Thunderbird comms from the Daytona 500 Race flyover....been busy, now I might actually watch the race LOL

George
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2014, 03:07:42 AM »

George,

do they often set the deck down that low? From the sound of things those guys were definitely maneuvering, seems strange to hear them tangling up so close to the dirt (well ocean) like that.
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2014, 07:32:36 AM »

George,

do they often set the deck down that low? From the sound of things those guys were definitely maneuvering, seems strange to hear them tangling up so close to the dirt (well ocean) like that.

It all depends on what block of airspace they can get.  I've heard them before maneuvering just a few 1000' ASL but most of the training is between 10000 - 25000'

I guess sometimes they'll work that low to be as realistic as possible....these guys (FANGS, SNAKES) are part of NORAD, these are the guys scrambled for hi-jackings, or any time we're really under threat of attack..

George
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 07:45:40 AM »



I guess sometimes they'll work that low to be as realistic as possible....these guys (FANGS, SNAKES) are part of NORAD, these are the guys scrambled for hi-jackings, or any time we're really under threat of attack..

George


interesting, I guess I found it a little  huh since with the introduction of the the APG-63V_ upgrades, the days of coming to the merge with a look up shoot up attitude are long long gone  grin.

I very much enjoy your website by the way. You have some real great stuff up there!
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 11:38:06 AM »

I remember 30 years ago they said that VOR's wouldn't be used within 10 years....here 30 years later VOR's are still with us....

So, even with radar upgrades (APG-63's) there's still a need to practice the old stuff..... (anyone do an NDB approach lately LOL)

George
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