Lost at Night at FRG - in the air and on the ground

[N737R]

I am also a VFR pilot I fly just about any thing I can get my hands on I'm working on my pilots license now for Privet Pilot Then I'm going to instrument and the rest of my ratings

[fdeli]

Been in and out of FRG at night several times and it is very hard to find that airport, it is actually a dark spot with the worst beacon ever under a class B shelf, so things get tight sometimes.  But the fact is he busted airspace.  Doesn't matter day or night; he wouldn't have seen a wall of D airspace out the window.  His situational awareness was terrible and everything comes undone from there.

Most of us have heard pilots in bad spots not handle the criticism well; or accept the help of ATC and fellow aviators when they already know they messed up.  He gets points back for that.  I think the silence was him concentrating on working his way thought the situation.  So a few more points back.

[chronas]

Thats really funny cuz 496ma i believe has a G1000 so it should be impossible to get lost.

[rcigliano]

I actually fly 496MA and it is equipped with a G1000. I also fly out of KFRG. This airport is almost impossible to find at night but with the G1000 you should be able to find the airport, or at least know when you are on top the field.

Also, there are jets at SheltAir but they are far enough away that you can get past them and taxi to the delta hanger. I don't know what he was looking at.

He was the most chatty pilot I have ever heard. He seemed to be clueless about what was going on.

[fholbert]

I actually fly 496MA and it is equipped with a G1000. I also fly out of KFRG. This airport is almost impossible to find at night but with the G1000 you should be able to find the airport, or at least know when you are on top the field.

Also, there are jets at SheltAir but they are far enough away that you can get past them and taxi to the delta hanger. I don't know what he was looking at.

He was the most chatty pilot I have ever heard. He seemed to be clueless about what was going on.

Getting lost in VFR with a G1000 then having your problem broadcast on the internet...

PRICELESS!

Frank Holbert
http://160knots.com

[aviator_06]

I actually fly 496MA and it is equipped with a G1000. I also fly out of KFRG. This airport is almost impossible to find at night but with the G1000 you should be able to find the airport, or at least know when you are on top the field.

Also, there are jets at SheltAir but they are far enough away that you can get past them and taxi to the delta hanger. I don't know what he was looking at.

He was the most chatty pilot I have ever heard. He seemed to be clueless about what was going on.

Getting lost in VFR with a G1000 then having your problem broadcast on the internet...

PRICELESS!

Frank Holbert
http://160knots.com

LOL That's Great!