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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2011, 09:16:18 PM »

If a passenger had  a popped slide, I don't think there is a jury that would convict.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2011, 10:53:00 PM »

Popped a slide -- maybe but it's a long way down, even with snow. Reminds me of landing in Reykjavik one day in April 1974 on way to Luxembourg  from ORD. The hippie Icelandic Air 727 connection Cheap! We landed in a very steady 40 knot headwind, straight on. Absolutely smooth landing. Felt like were standing still when the wheels finally touched, Captain came on and said "Passngers are welcome to deplane and visit the duty free shops during our stay here in Reykjavik. However, because of the ice and wind you may need to crawl from the airstairs to the terminal. He was right. But being 24 or whatever my girlfriend and I did exactly that, and back. Can't hardly see that happening in these poliritically correct days of rules and lawsuits.

Ah the good old days.....  
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2011, 11:53:40 PM »

Mike - I agree with you completely, and Glenn Greenwald does one of the best jobs of  of anyone of analyzing at least one part of the present situation - especially the fact that voting in this country simply no longer works Which is, BTW, the main mesage of OWS). But --- if you think American aviation is a mess, try a current Sudan Airways domestic flight. It's worse than Aeroflot internal in the 1970s.  And that's saying something! Cheers -- Phil
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2011, 12:36:16 AM »

 rolleyes
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2011, 12:59:16 AM »

Am I the only one who's thinking where is a workman with a ladder?  I would happily climb down a ladder to the tarmac rather than being held in that plane for 7 hours with overflowing toilets.  C'mon people, what are we are? Sheep?  What are they going to do? Arrest me for not wanting to be held hostage!!  This is preposterous!
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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2011, 03:57:56 PM »

If I were the captain, I would have conspired with my crew to solve this in a matter of minutes.  Strike a match in the lav, let it burn out, and flush it.  Smoke alarm and a burning odor.  Quick, everybody off, call the buses!
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2011, 10:46:42 PM »

That might have worked just fine. Except that lieing to federal officers is a serious crime these days, often more easily and vigourously prosecuted than the original infraction. .
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2011, 09:43:17 AM »

What about, as PIC, just declaring an emergency and deplaning the passengers, then asking for some busses to get them off the tarmac?  How could ATC refuse THAT request??? Emergency due to wide-spread passenger uprising or something - heck, doesn't a plane-load of people without food, water, and toilets already constitute an emergency anyway?
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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2011, 04:21:04 PM »

ATC doesn't refuse the deplaning of passengers......
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2011, 05:45:25 PM »

That might have worked just fine. Except that lieing to federal officers is a serious crime these days, often more easily and vigourously prosecuted than the original infraction. .


So the Answer to this is don't talk until you have counsel present or at least consulted with them and "you believed there to be an emergency afoot". 18 USC 1001
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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2011, 09:30:18 PM »

Ok fine. 

sniff sniff.  Do you smell that?  I smell burning?  Do you?
Huh?  no [kick]  Yes, I smell it too.  Pop the slides!
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« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2012, 07:34:39 PM »

WrongWayMike,

Don't let the behavior of one company let you characterize the nature of the American system as a whole. This is the greatest country in the world. And be mindful that JetBlue just violated a rule that they initially caused to be created in the first place. They won't be around much longer if they keep that up, and that is the beauty of the system in which we live. Passengers will not fly JetBlue if they fear an ordeal like that.

This must be one of the most arrogant and naive things I have ever heard.
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2012, 10:20:47 AM »

WrongWayMike,

Don't let the behavior of one company let you characterize the nature of the American system as a whole. This is the greatest country in the world. And be mindful that JetBlue just violated a rule that they initially caused to be created in the first place. They won't be around much longer if they keep that up, and that is the beauty of the system in which we live. Passengers will not fly JetBlue if they fear an ordeal like that.

This must be one of the most arrogant and naive things I have ever heard.

LOL!  Then you don't get out much!  His post was right on the mark.  It was neither arrogant nor naive...In fact, your response was much closer to both of those things.
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