Author Topic: Nice CrossWind Landing  (Read 9877 times)

Offline CardiacKid

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Nice CrossWind Landing
« on: January 30, 2009, 02:59:13 AM »


I can not believe they attempted that! Is that a normal crosswind landing?



Offline laylow

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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2009, 08:35:41 AM »
Nice.

Offline cessna157

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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2009, 08:40:16 AM »
Yeah, that's about the textbook way to land in a crosswind.  Looked like his touchdown was perfectly timed too, very smoothe.

Here's how not to do it:

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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2009, 08:48:14 AM »
Looks like a perfect landing to me.  Just another day for the pilots.  

The pilot is doing what is called "crabbing" (coordinated flight but flying a heading that is 10-20 degrees upwind of the runway heading that results in a runway centerline ground track).    At the last moment you see the pilot kick opposite rudder while opposing the bank tendencies with slight counter ailerons.  The aircraft responds by aligning with the runway and it drops onto its landing gear correctly.

An interesting fact is that the Boeing 747 had landing gear designed to hit the runway while the aircraft was in a crab, somewhere around 25 degrees off center.  This because the engines were so low off the wings that had pilots attempted to kick out the crab at the last moment (as in this video) there was too much risk of scraping the engine nacelles.  There actually is a lot of video around the Internet of pilots accidentally doing just that.


Offline cessna157

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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2009, 09:00:43 AM »
Once again, as usual, Dr. Peter is right.

If you wanna see a cool crosswind landing, go out and find a video of a B-52 landing in a crosswind.  You'll be pleasantly surprised.......

Offline KSYR-pjr

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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 09:38:59 AM »
Once again, as usual, Dr. Peter is right.

Ha, thanks for the compliment but for the record a) I have made some bonehead mistakes here and b) I am not a doctor.

The good thing about this community is that when one does slip up there are definitely more qualified contributors, such as yourself, right behind him/her willing to right the wrong.  As a result the information accuracy on this forum remains high.

Before I clicked on the OP's link I was expecting either that link you posted or the video of the cargo aircraft attempting a landing out in Colorado where it was ugly but didn't get so low that an engine scraped.  In both of those attempts, however, my impression had always been that a last second gust overpowered the aircraft despite the best efforts of the pilots.

But, I had read that the pilots in the link you posted eventually opted for another runway more aligned with the wind, which I suppose does raise the question of the decision surrounding the first attempt.

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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 09:43:36 AM »
Before I clicked on the OP's link I was expecting either that link you posted or the video of the cargo aircraft attempting a landing out in Colorado where it was ugly but didn't get so low that an engine scraped.  In both of those attempts, however, my impression had always been that a last second gust overpowered the aircraft despite the best efforts of the pilots.

But, I had read that the pilots in the link you posted eventually opted for another runway more aligned with the wind, which I suppose does raise the question of the decision surrounding the first attempt.

Well, first of all, ask and you shall receive (see attachment).

2nd, I dont remember what the result was of the A320, as to the pilots, but I'm pretty sure they got in some serious trouble.  There's always the joke out there that just about any NTSB breakdown includes some sort of pilot error.  The airbus was obviously not within its wind limits, so they tore off the winglet (or whatever they call them on the airbii) when they hit the ground.  Ironically, there was another runway that was more aligned with the wind that other guys were using.  Needless to say, they gave that runway a try on the next time around.


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Re: Nice CrossWind Landing
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 10:43:31 AM »
Well, first of all, ask and you shall receive (see attachment).


Thanks, that's the one I remember.