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« on: January 30, 2006, 08:10:26 PM »

Hello, hope this will be interesting to you. The recording has two separate parts.
As for part 1 it seems to me that the pilot didn't get the idea our controller tried to express. He meant that the part of the route was available at that time until passing the point mentioned but the crew understood that the route was not available at that time. Am I right?

And just enjoy listening Part 2. By the way, have you watched that match?
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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2006, 09:34:40 PM »

Hmm, no comment
but yes, from what i could hear you are right.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2006, 12:31:11 PM »

Hmm.  I hear something like the the 10600 meters is available "unteela partcha daycher only"

I guess the guy doesn't understand "hockey score"
You would think that's in the Common Russian-English Phrase book.

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2006, 12:22:02 PM »

Got anymore recordings from Russia? And what center sector was this?
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2006, 03:11:00 PM »

Air Canada 007 is a Vancouver to Hong Kong flight. They are talking to Magadan Control. My interpretation is Air Canada 007 is requesting a higher altitude and Magadan replies that they can climb to 10600 meters but can only stay at that altitude until they reach waypoint DATIR, then they would have to descend. Waypoint DATIR is located on the G212 airway (between Takhtayamsk and Nikolayevsk-Na-Amure) at N58 36.3 E150 41.7, this is in the Magadan CTA/FIR area. Was this recorded off a VHF or HF frequency ? I'm guessing HF ? Very interesting, if you have more it would be great to hear them, or better yet a live feed. DJ
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2006, 10:47:57 PM »

Good ol' Air Canada pilots.

If Russian ATC can't provide the hockey score, they usually send an ACARS to Flight Dispatch via SATCOM instead  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2006, 04:48:43 PM »

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Good ol' Air Canada pilots.

If Russian ATC can't provide the hockey score, they usually send an ACARS to Flight Dispatch via SATCOM instead  Cheesy

Hahaha thats awesome, good to know our sattalites are being put to good use
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2006, 06:00:45 AM »

Thats true, I know some friends who are Dispatchers and they have been asked to provide sports scores and other items such as facts out the Guiness Book of World Records  Smiley

Ah what a varied carrier to look forward to  cheesy
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2006, 07:23:08 AM »

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Thats true, I know some friends who are Dispatchers and they have been asked to provide sports scores and other items such as facts out the Guiness Book of World Records  Smiley

Ah what a varied carrier to look forward to  cheesy


Hey, Ben!  How's it been!?  I've been looking for the clips you posted on JFKTower.com (JFK clips) but it looks like you're no longer hosting them.

Can you e-mail/ON me if you have them?

Much appreciated,
Jason
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2006, 04:56:22 PM »

) hockey score Russian vs Canada 2:0 (Torino 2006)
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2006, 12:35:46 AM »

I could only wish it was this clear!  Magadan, and most of Russian ATC sound as if they are using a coffee can and string.  Very difficult to understand most of  the time.

I have rarely heard it this clear.  It is definitely VHF though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2006, 12:46:31 AM »

"a coffee can and string" sounds a bit offended. Don't you think so?
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2006, 12:54:23 AM »

I mean offensive, sorry. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2006, 05:56:13 PM »

RE the coffee can remark..  Magadan is actually using some of the most advanced equipment for long range control of ATC , they employ a system called FANS ( Future Air Navigation System) it works similar to ADS-B in that GPS aircraft positions are uplinked via satellite to ground stations. If I recall correctly United Airlines was involved in providing some of the equipment to Magadan so they could start flying trans-polar routes to the Far East.   I learned about this some time ago when the FAA hosted some training for accident investigations to Russian controllers here in San Diego about 1997 .  Being a student of Russian language at the time, I was responsible for conducting tours of Socal Tracon where I work as a controller.    The tinny sound of the radio , is probably  HF
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2008, 04:42:09 AM »

i love the end..."aaaaaaaaaaaah, disregard, disregard"  the pilot knew it was hopeless!!!  lolol
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