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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 08:02:20 PM »

A JFK controller would have simply said "Get the hell out of here, spin through the dial till you get the frequency right".

That’s hilarious, and so was the clip.   
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« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2006, 11:19:35 AM »

Oh my.

I would've probably resorted to saying "one two three four five six seven _EIGHT_"  so he knew what 'my' eight sounded like.

Sheesh.
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2006, 05:18:53 PM »

I realize that English is the standard language (now) for ATC, that we need to use a standard language, whatever one it is, and that therefore pilots should speak passable English. But these "foreign pilots" comments are a bit silly--how would you guys feel if Chinese was the official ATC language and you had to instantly interpret Chinese numbers spit at you in various local accents as a matter of life and death? I'm sure you'd all do a great job, but keep some perspective.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2006, 03:25:45 PM »

wow... can't believe no one thought my "cancel IFR" joke was funny...

tjm402, you sound kind of bitter... Of course none of us would do any good if we were asked to start flying and controlling in Chinese today... but english hasn't been the language of flying since only yesterday.  Everyone who starts pilot training knows that the language of flying is english (except of course in quebec, where the skies are really fun...).

So it's not like people get their licenses, take off, and then suddently realize as they're trying to handoff from toronto centre to montreal centre that they suddently have to speak english (or french if this guy ever made it to montreal centre) while in the air...
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2006, 11:30:48 PM »

I found it funny, but then again I've been known to yell at a few pilots.......

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« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2006, 11:23:29 AM »

Too funny!!!! grin
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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2006, 03:24:04 PM »

Having giving it some thought, I would partially blame the controller. Perhaps if she wasn't using "slang" phraseology, it would have made more sense for the pilot.

While I understand Controllers will cut corners wherever they see fit, and don't always follow MANOPS procedures, but what the hell does "Twenty Seven Eighty Seven" really mean to a foreign pilot?

She could have said about a minute and a half of her time, if she had chosen to repeat "One Two Seven Decimal Eight Seven"
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2006, 10:06:34 PM »

It's not necessarily slang according to the Manops you mention.  Though, obviously it would have been real smart to begin identifying the digits individually.
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2006, 11:43:05 PM »

I feel like I just got beat up after listening to that.  That's one of the reasons why in the US we use single-digit form for all frequencies.  It didn't help that her radio was fuzzy and semi-distorted.

nope, we dont always use single digit frequencies.  our frequencies go as far as the five-hundredth place.  127.875 is actually a perfectly valid freq in the us (they just omit the five), so 127.8, 127.82(5), 127.72(5).  make sense?
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2006, 08:40:47 PM »

LOL! That's a pretty funny clip! cheesy
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« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2006, 07:18:37 PM »

Nice clip... and agreed - very patient controller.  I'm sure the pilot must have been feeling stressed out too.  Entering airspace without radio contact...hm!

Scrapper, nice quote as well...
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