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Being reported all over the newswires: CNN, AP, NPR, NBC, Reuters, BBC. Link below is from FlightAware:

http://flightaware.com/squawks/view/1/recently/popular/40633/Malaysia_Airlines_says_flight_MH370_from_Kuala_Lumpur_to_Beijing_lost_contact_with_air_traffic_control

Reports are that it lost lost contact with Subang ATC, but only had 7.5 hours of fuel onboard. It's a 6 hour flight for its route: WMKK-ZBAA (Kuala Lumpur - Beijing). So you may want to have a look in the archives for any activity for MAS370. No doubt the media is looking for this right now.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 09:10:33 PM »
Allegedly lost contact in Vietnam airspace.  We don't have coverage there yet.


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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 10:44:18 PM »
Prayers for all involved.  What a tragedy.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 10:49:46 PM »
Official statement from Malaysia Airlines:

Ladies and Gentlemen, we are deeply saddened this morning with the news on MH370.

Malaysia Airlines confirms that flight MH370 had lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2.40am, today. There has been speculation that the aircraft has landed at Nanming. We are working to verify the authenticity of the report and others.

Flight MH370 was operated on a Boeing 777-200 aircraft. It departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.41 am earlier this morning bound for Beijing. The aircraft was scheduled to land at Beijing International Airport at 6.30am local Beijing time.

The flight was carrying a total number of 239 passengers and crew – comprising 227 passengers (including 2 infants), 12 crew members. The passengers were of 14 different nationalities - citizens from:-



1. China – 152 plus 1 infant

2. Malaysia - 38

3. Indonesia - 12

4. Australia - 7

5. France - 3

6. United States of America – 3 pax plus 1 infant

7. New Zealand - 2

8. Ukraine - 2

9. Canada - 2

10. Russia - 1

11. Italy - 1

12. Taiwan - 1

13. Netherlands - 1

14. Austria - 1

This flight was a code share with China Southern Airlines.

We are working with authorities who have activated their Search and Rescue team to locate the aircraft.

Our team is currently calling the next-of-kin of passengers and crew.

The flight was piloted by Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a Malaysian aged 53. He has a total flying hours of 18,365hours. He joined Malaysia Airlines in 1981. First officer, Fariq Ab.Hamid, a Malaysian, is aged 27. He has a total flying hours of 2,763 hours. He joined Malaysia Airlines in 2007.

Our focus now is to work with the emergency responders and authorities and mobilize its full support. Our thoughts and prayers are with all affected passengers and crew and their family members.

The airline will provide regular updates on the situation. The public may contact +603 7884 1234. For media queries, kindly contact +603 8777 5698/ +603 8787 1276.

Next-of-kin may head to the Support Facility Building at KLIA’s South Support Zone. For directions, call 03 8787 1269.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 11:22:54 PM »
Signal apparently detected. Maybe ELT or pingers on the black boxes?

http://www.china.org.cn/world/2014-03/08/content_31714878.htm


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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2014, 11:38:15 PM »
The guardian is now reporting the signal detection story is incorrect.


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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2014, 01:24:44 AM »
News reports from Vietnam Military Command that the plane had crashed at 153 miles south of Phu quoc island .   Vietnam's navy already started S & R but no news on survivors yet.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2014, 01:35:03 AM »
Allegedly lost contact in Vietnam airspace.  We don't have coverage there yet.



True, but since the flight originated from Kuala Lumpur, we would at least have the departure covered, at least to see if there was anything reported out of the ordinary there..

EDIT: User at FlightAware stated that the aircraft had lost contact while still in Malaysian airspace, and crashed in Malaysian airspace, before it entered Vietnam airspace. user is based in Saigon. So if the WMKK feed covers the entire FIR, we might have something.

BL.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 01:44:22 AM by tyketto »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2014, 01:56:57 AM »
This is funny and weird  the Malaysia transport minister says there is no signs of Malaysia Airlines plane wreckage; denies reports plane crashed off Vietnam   the plane is a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 02:12:55 AM by xiangster »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2014, 02:29:26 AM »
This is funny and weird  the Malaysia transport minister says there is no signs of Malaysia Airlines plane wreckage; denies reports plane crashed off Vietnam   the plane is a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft

I caught that as well; Vietnam says that the plane crashed and they've identified where, and Malaysia denies it. Ton of confusion going on here.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2014, 03:24:31 AM »
Looks like no one really knows where the plane is just heard Philippines is sending out its navy to search for the plane  , Malaysia and Vietnam's navies are already searching for the plane  now i hear that China is also sending out it's navy .  
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 04:24:48 AM by xiangster »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2014, 03:53:33 AM »
Updated statement From Malaysia Airlines

Saturday, March 08, 04:20 PM MYT +0800 Media Statement - MH370 Incident released at 4.20pm

Sepang, 8 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines is still unable to establish any contact or determine the whereabouts of flight MH370. Earlier today, Subang ATC had lost contact with the aircraft at 2.40am. The last known position of MH370 before it disappeared off the radar was 065515 North (longitude) and 1033443 East (latitude).

We are still trying to locate the current location of the flight based on the last known position of the aircraft. We are working with the International search and rescue teams in trying to locate the aircraft. So far, we have not received any emergency signals or distress messages from MH370. We are working with authorities and assure that all sources are deployed to assist with the search and rescue mission.

The passenger manifest will not be released until all families of the passengers have been informed. The flight was carrying a total number of 239 passengers and crew – comprising 227 passengers (including 2 infants) and 12 crew members.

We are deploying our “Go Team” to Beijing which will depart Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 4.30pm with a team of caregivers and volunteers to assist the family members of the passengers.

The passengers are of 14 different nationalities. All crew on-board are Malaysians.

Please take note that the earlier statement did not include the number of Indian nationals. This was due to confusion between the country code of Indonesia and India.

The below table shows the latest number of passengers and their nationalities:-

Nationality
   

Total

China/Taiwan      154 including infant

Malaysia              38

India                   5

Indonesia           7

Australia             6

France                4

USA                    3 including infant

New Zealand     2

Ukraine              2

Canada              2

Russian              1

Italy                   1

Netherlands       1

Austrian             1

Our focus now is to work with the emergency responders and authorities and mobilize our full support.

Our thoughts and prayers are with all affected passengers and crew and their family members.

The public may contact +603 7884 1234.

For media queries, kindly contact +603 8777 5698/ +603 8787 1276.

The airline will provide regular updates on the situation. There are many unvalidated reports out in the media and Malaysia Airlines strongly urges the media and the public at large to only report from official statements from Malaysia Airlines and the Government of Malaysia.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2014, 06:56:18 AM »
Allegedly lost contact in Vietnam airspace.  We don't have coverage there yet.



True, but since the flight originated from Kuala Lumpur, we would at least have the departure covered, at least to see if there was anything reported out of the ordinary there..

EDIT: User at FlightAware stated that the aircraft had lost contact while still in Malaysian airspace, and crashed in Malaysian airspace, before it entered Vietnam airspace. user is based in Saigon. So if the WMKK feed covers the entire FIR, we might have something.

BL.


Already went through a couple hours worth of Lumpur Control tapes and didn't find any comms with target flight.  

Turns out there are multiple Lumpur Control frequencies but we only cover one of them right now.  The flights on the one we cover all seem to be departing the area to the northwest, so that must be the sector we're covering.  Flights out toward the north and northeast must be with another sector.

I do hope they find the plane.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 07:24:41 AM by dave »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2014, 07:05:17 AM »
Just an update the navies of Vietnam, Malaysia , Singapore, Philippines, China and the United States Navy are at the location searching for the plane at this moment. hope for some news soon.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2014, 10:27:50 AM »
It has been reported there is some evidence it could be a Hijack the Italian foreign ministry and the Austria Government has officially reported that the  Italian Luigi Maraldi and the Austrian Christan Kozel had there passports stolen in Thailand and imposters are using their passports to board the flight . The Malaysian Government are investigating          
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 10:35:10 AM by xiangster »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2014, 10:46:43 AM »
CNN cannot even spell Boeing correctly.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2014, 11:09:29 AM »
liveatc over wmkk only covers norther and western sector of Lumpur atc although sometimes it tuned to other sector/frequency.. MH370 bound to Beijing is covered by eastern sector of Lumpur atc.. so.. there will be no archived / recoding regarding this MH370..
my prey are with all people on-board...
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 11:33:30 AM by lumpur_atc »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2014, 11:53:45 AM »
Looks like the next MH370 flight to Beijing has just took off  are we able to get atc for that flight ?

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2014, 01:51:00 PM »
Looks like the next MH370 flight to Beijing has just took off  are we able to get atc for that flight ?

Did they use the same call sign? It would be interesting if they did because they don't know the fate of MAS370 from yesterday.

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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2014, 02:12:49 PM »
According to FlightAware, MAS370 is currently enroute to Beijing. So if seems they are using the same flight number

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2014, 02:58:43 PM »
Yes, they are using the same flight number for the next day flight.
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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2014, 07:52:02 PM »
Still no news of finding the plane even with so many navies searching in the area.  The Malaysian government have requested the help of the FBI NTSB to help in the investigations as there are more evidence to indicate that it is a terror related incident.   
« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 10:46:56 PM by xiangster »

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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2014, 12:20:35 AM »
At least Gulf of Thailand is shallow water - most of it < 200 ft, so accessible by tech Scuba. Finding and recovering the plane should be fairly quick, unlike, for example, the Air France flight.

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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2014, 11:00:18 AM »
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Re: Malaysia Airlines reports ATC loses contact with MAS370, WMKK-ZBAA
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2014, 02:14:20 PM »
There is also a possibility that the airplane turned around...

A piece of composite material has been observed floating on the surface. It is suspected that this is an interior trim section from one of the cabin doors... (see AvHerald article for photo) 

"Vietnam's navy has spotted a floating object about 80 kilometers (50 miles) southwest of Vietnam's Tho Chu Island, which is located off the country's southwest coast in the Gulf of Thailand, Vietnam National Search and Rescue Committee Spokesman Hung Nguyen told CNN. The object was spotted by a Vietnamese navy rescue aircraft at about 7:30 a.m. ET Sunday (6:30 p.m. local time). Due to the dark, the navy aircraft could not get close enough to identify the floating object, and was recalled to base. Three search and rescue boats have since been deployed to that location."

From CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/09/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Oil slick found as well:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/09/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-may-have-turned-back-before-vanishing-over-south-china-sea-with-239-people-on-board/

AvHerald:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0
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