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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2006, 05:06:50 PM »

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Very weird...I can't hear it at all now.

Just checked it again now, no change. When listening to the High (Atlantic) feed I can hear the Misc feed in the background at about half the volume. The same when listening to the Misc feed, I can hear the High (Atlantic) feed in the background at a lower volume. DJ
 
 


I can't hear it at all now.  On three different players.

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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2006, 06:10:54 PM »

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I can't hear it at all now.  On three different players.

I tried two players and still hear it using both, still in the background at around half volume . However I just noticed now that I can only hear it when using headphones (Sony earbuds), when using the PC (laptop) speakers I don't hear it !? DJ
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2006, 11:49:23 AM »

Now on my desktop, with the speakers no splashover, with the headphones you can hear the other feed but it is very faint, not like with the laptop were on headphones the splashover is quite loud coming in at about half volume. DJ
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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2006, 02:14:53 PM »

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Re: The High Altitude (Atlantic) feed.

Do you get out to the site of this new feed very often ? Sorry to be a pain but it sounds like Boston has changed the frequency they are using for the BOS46 sector, it used to be 127.825, now they are using 118.425. It's been that way for the last couple of days, maybe just a temporary sub ? I seem to recall they were using 118.425 for the CAM39 sector off and on a few years ago. If they keep it up could you retune the scanner (remove 127.825 and replace with 118.425) ? I'm still getting that splashover as well (on headphones), if it's not too much trouble could you try and fix that as well ? I'm not trying to be demanding, just providing feedback. Thanks again for all your hard work. DJ
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« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2006, 02:27:34 PM »

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Re: The High Altitude (Atlantic) feed.

Do you get out to the site of this new feed very often ? Sorry to be a pain but it sounds like Boston has changed the frequency they are using for the BOS46 sector, it used to be 127.825, now they are using 118.425. It's been that way for the last couple of days, maybe just a temporary sub ? I seem to recall they were using 118.425 for the CAM39 sector off and on a few years ago. If they keep it up could you retune the scanner (remove 127.825 and replace with 118.425) ? I'm still getting that splashover as well (on headphones), if it's not too much trouble could you try and fix that as well ? I'm not trying to be demanding, just providing feedback. Thanks again for all your hard work. DJ

I'll fix the feedback if I can.  The setup is the same as it was before I moved it so I'm not sure why this is happening.  It will require some debug time on site.  Not sure when I can get to it but I hope to get there soon, possibly tonight.  I will also check the 118.425 frequency out.  It appears that it might be a permanent change.

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« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2006, 12:01:02 AM »

I have heard that 118.425 and 127.825 working at the same time a few days seperated by altitude heights, this was a few monts back listening w/out LIVAETC but on my scanner
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« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2006, 01:36:48 PM »

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I'll fix the feedback if I can.

Thanks !

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I will also check the 118.425 frequency out.  It appears that it might be a permanent change.

Just listening now (1300 EDT) they are back to using 127.825, but it's not that busy so maybe they split it high/ultra high when it gets busy ? Although the last couple of days they appeared to be using 118.425 for everything above FL240. DJ
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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2006, 07:05:28 PM »

I would assume the Altitude reasoning since now days MHT Traff has increased outbound over this sector these days. They used to file direct BAF,CMK,AND Nelie Intersections. Now the majority of SW traff outbound from MHT is filed to the Witch Intersection then turning rright to over BOS then direct to their filed altitiudes. This would take them to 128.2 off MHT DEP thence 127.825 from 180-240. Just a surmision on my part DJ and Dave
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2006, 09:13:59 AM »

I would assume the Altitude reasoning since now days MHT Traff has increased outbound over this sector these days. They used to file direct BAF,CMK,AND Nelie Intersections. Now the majority of SW traff outbound from MHT is filed to the Witch Intersection then turning rright to over BOS then direct to their filed altitiudes. This would take them to 128.2 off MHT DEP thence 127.825 from 180-240. Just a surmision on my part DJ and Dave

I believe you're right.  The FAA has been experimenting for a while now with this new outbound routing from Manchester.  The goal has been to provide for easier traffic separation for the MHT and PWM inbound traffic.

See:
http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/mht20050124.php

It would appear that this has been made permanent since all MHT outbound jet traffic gets direct PSM then WITCH (or a vector after PSM).  Also, I regularly hear GDM36 giving PWM inbounds a crossing restriction for NEETS.

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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2006, 10:13:02 AM »

How do these sound now?  I made some changes at the site Saturday night.  I am on my laptop right now and never really heard the bleedover here, so I can't be sure it's fixed.  I am trying to narrow the issue down.

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« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2006, 09:02:40 PM »

sounds good Dave from what I hear
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2006, 12:27:34 PM »

Working quite well Dave on the feeds!!!!  Any of the Boston feeds contain 128.2, if not can it be added to the ORH feed and could 128.05 possibly be moved to the ZBW Atlantic feed Huh
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2006, 01:42:12 PM »

dave,

Looks like you fixed the splashover interference problem, they both sound good now on headphones.

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could 128.05 possibly be moved to the ZBW Atlantic feed

The ZBW Atlantic Feed is using my radio (thanks to dave for running it for me), in my opinion it's too busy as it is during peak times so I don't want to add any more frequencies. Plus 90% of the 128.050 sector is out of range from this location anyway.

The ZBW (Misc) feed has way too many frequencies on it, you can't follow anything that's going on during normal hours. I'd be up for donating the cash to add some more radios to split the sectors some more. Or better yet a remotely controlled scanner I can tune from my location !

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2006, 12:22:30 PM »

dave,

Whenever you get a chance can you please make sure the delay function is turned OFF on all frequencies on the ZBW Atlantic feed (it sounds like it's turned ON). Thank you. DJ
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2006, 04:57:25 PM »

dave,

Whenever you get a chance can you please make sure the delay function is turned OFF on all frequencies on the ZBW Atlantic feed (it sounds like it's turned ON). Thank you. DJ

Unfortunately, the issue turned out to be the handheld scanner, so I had to substitute a BC-350 temporarily until we can find a better fix.  I'm not sure why this wasn't a problem at my location but I don't have endless hours to debug it.

I have to sort out our options so contact me offline - this isn't something for the forums. 

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