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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2010, 01:38:21 PM »

Brian,
  At this point I'm convinced it's just merely your inside location/antenna.

Do you have a wifi connection at your shop?  How about taking your laptop outside and using a hand held scanner, just stand out on the sidewalk. I bet your reception will be MUCH better. I think line of site and a good outside antenna are critical.

Now as to the outside antenna..Huh  Tough situation. Too bad you aren't closer to the Melody. They have ton's of satellite dish's and antenna on their roof. 

Rob

Yeah, we are just a couple doors down from the Melody Bar but they are in a different building.

I don't have a hand-held but I did wander around the store and plugged in to various outlets to see if I could find a sweet spot.  No luck.

I do have wifi, so I suppose we could remotely locate everything, but access is important in case we need to reboot a PC or whatever.  I was also looking at this antenna for indoor use:

http://www.jpole-antenna.com/2009/10/11/the-airband-j-pole/

But I'm not sure if it would work any better than the ones I have tried.  It is less expensive than the one from DPD.  Has anyone ever used this one indoors?

At this point I'm getting discouraged.  Maybe we should ask Melody Bar if they would host it.  I could donate the PC, and Dave could put the scanner on loan to them.  Then we'd just have to get an antenna and get it all installed (I'm assuming they have some form of Internet access we could tap into - I'm not sure if my wifi would go that far).

Or maybe In & Out would do it in exchange for free advertising.  Their location is even better.

At this point I think I will try to get the PC connected to the wifi so that I can feed what I am getting.  It's better than nothing.  If people are happy with it, great.  If not, I will be happy to help another feeder get things set up in a better spot.

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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2010, 03:22:15 PM »

Why dont you get in touch with Countryman and McDaniel...they have a building at runway 25 right LAX...they already host two fine webcams from the building giving excellent coverage to  runway 25 achivity.They  might be prepared to help out..m50
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2010, 09:58:31 PM »

Why dont you get in touch with Countryman and McDaniel...they have a building at runway 25 right LAX...they already host two fine webcams from the building giving excellent coverage to  runway 25 achivity.They  might be prepared to help out..m50
About the webcams..  http://cargolaw.com/lax_webcam.html
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2010, 08:25:52 PM »

Interesting.  I have always felt that their webcam was  of pretty poor quality, and hardly "live". Not sure what the delay is, but it's substantial.

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2010, 08:34:59 PM »

well there is also this cam, which is streaming live 24/7 on LAX. I watch it all the time with ATC and its just awesome. No delay.  smiley

http://media.myfoxla.com/live/lax/
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2010, 10:18:29 PM »

Interesting.  I have always felt that their webcam was  of pretty poor quality, and hardly "live". Not sure what the delay is, but it's substantial.

Rob

Its not really delayed... the camera refreshes every 8 seconds or so. It also gets stuck every now and then but its fixed within a few days.
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2010, 01:26:48 AM »

I feed KEMT, I have an external antenna and just picked up another scanner. I may be able to do KLAX as well.

Details at http://www.liveatc.net/forums/feeders-forum/what-other-socal-feed-to-run/

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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2010, 08:41:01 PM »

I can get North and South complex aircraft in the air and on the ground, and North Tower comes in strong.  South tower comes in and is intelligible, but the SNR is rather low.  It must be somewhere else and behind a building from me.

I can also get both halves of:

124.5 Zuma
128.5 Stadium
124.9 Downe

I'm in Altadena and am actually 9.5 miles from the KEMT transmitters, but 1000 feet higher.  For the LAX transmitters (well, at least the tower, I don't know where the transmitters are), I'm 23 miles, 1200 feet higher.

Also, LAX tower seems to swap transmitters.  Saturday, North tower was the good one.  Sunday, it was South Tower.

I can also get 123.025, the Helicopter basin CTAF.

--Carlos V.
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2010, 01:00:51 AM »

Any news/updates regarding the feed?
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2010, 02:35:15 AM »

Any news/updates regarding the feed?
Not really.  I was out of town for a few days, and in any case I still need a wifi adapter to get the PC connected to the Internet.  Someone offered a couple of options and I need to get back to him, but I'm still catching up from the trip.

Hopefully in the next week or two I will have something going.

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2010, 04:48:04 AM »

Just curious, how close do you need to be to pick up KLAX Tower?
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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2010, 11:53:22 PM »

Looks like someone else picked it up, but I won't be able to do LAX in good conscience.  Over the week I had good days and bad days on both transmitters.  It wasn't very consistent.  I guess 21 miles is too far, even with the altitude.   It looks like my reception is affected by who parks next to the transmitter.

I'll listen to the approach sectors for a while.  Or punt and try the basin Helicopter CTAF.

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« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2010, 12:15:18 AM »

Just curious, how close do you need to be to pick up KLAX Tower?

Apparently it's not a question of how close, since our store is practically underneath the approach to 24R, and reception is marginal.  I think it's a combination of our location on the first floor of a 2 story building, and the metallic film on all of the windows.  An outdoor antenna would probably work spectacularly well, but it's just not possible from our location.

Just for the record, Dave is working behind the scenes to come up with something better and more permanent for KLAX, and I have promised to help however I can. 

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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 10:16:54 PM »

Brian,
  Do you know what Dave has in store? Another feeder off site?  Or something on the LAX property? Perhaps I can donate my antenna.  Or maybe just hold on to it till April, and try the feed again when I am home?

Hope things work out well.

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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2010, 09:11:44 PM »

Brian,
  Do you know what Dave has in store? Another feeder off site?  Or something on the LAX property? Perhaps I can donate my antenna.  Or maybe just hold on to it till April, and try the feed again when I am home?

Hope things work out well.

Rob

Another feeder somewhere in the area.  He said he's been playing phone tag.  Next time I'm at the store I will record an MP3 sample of what I get, and Dave will listen to it and see if it's worth doing anything from our store.  I offered my PC as a donation - it's a dog, but still good enough for running a feed (it's pretty much identical to what I'm using at KBUR), and it's already configured and ready to go.

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