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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 02:40:49 PM »
 :-D They are just like pilots, if one does it they all want to do it....

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2011, 03:10:58 PM »
Band-wagoners! :roll:

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2011, 06:00:06 PM »
Well by the end of the year we'll have fully staffed midnight shifts too.  Not sure what else could happen here.


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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2011, 08:13:32 PM »
I'm willing to guess we will see quite a few of these pop up in the near future.  With the controllers now having an ASAP program (I don't recall their exact name for it, ATSAP?) I bet we'll have a few self-disclosures.

Similar to the story about "loss of seperation events increased 200%" (or whatever the number was) in Washington.  It's not that there was a huge sudden increase of events, there was a huge increase of reports, which is a good thing.  That is exactly the point of ASAP.

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2011, 09:01:32 AM »
An interesting article in the Wall Street Journal discusses a cooperative fatigue study conducted by the FAA and NATCA.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703518704576258703152157770.html

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2011, 10:30:07 AM »
Well by the end of the year we'll have fully staffed midnight shifts too.  Not sure what else could happen here.

I'm sure somebody is thinking about implementing some sort of dead-man-switch instead of hiring people.

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2011, 11:02:16 AM »
Air traffic chief resigns over controller lapses:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42589519/ns/travel-news/

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2011, 02:16:34 PM »
Well by the end of the year we'll have fully staffed midnight shifts too.  Not sure what else could happen here.

I'm sure somebody is thinking about implementing some sort of dead-man-switch instead of hiring people.

Would that help? I mean they where called by phone and over the frequency and didn't hear it, so a dead-mans-switch would need a teaser to electrocute the controller....

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2011, 10:00:11 PM »
They could have the same system that uncontrolled airfields have. Send a signal on the frequency to wake up the controller :)

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 05:16:45 AM »
 :-o

I wrote above if one does it they all want to, so there's also a Miami controller among 12 colleagues who closed his eyes....

That is what we call solidair.....

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20110416/wire/110419581

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2011, 08:01:59 PM »
This stuff is getting embarrassing! I've been working mids for 25 years and suddenly I find myself getting very, very sleepy... Power of suggestion???

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Re: ANOTHER controller asleep on the job (this morning)
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2011, 11:12:36 AM »
This stuff is getting embarrassing! I've been working mids for 25 years and suddenly I find myself getting very, very sleepy... Power of suggestion???

Have the airconditioner to 34 Fahrenheit and a cup of coffee will do...