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Offline mjtibbz

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Are the streams 16 K BYTES /sec or 16 K BITS /sec?
« on: April 25, 2007, 07:45:41 AM »
Hi,

First can I express the awesomeness of this site ;)

secondly, I am charged as per data usage by my ISP and im trying to get an idea of how much bandwidth I will use while listening to a stream.

Are these streams 16 k bytes / sec or 16 k bits / sec

I work out roughly that if the streams are k-bytes/sec, I will get roughly 1 minute of listening per megabyte of bandwidth.

If the streams are k-bits/sec, would that work out to be roughly 50 minutes of listening per megabyte of bandwidth?


lastly, I understand the law regarding UK ATC streams, I take it liveatc.net wouldn't risk offering UK streams even if people in proximity of UK airports could offer them?

Thanks



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Re: Are the streams 16 K BYTES /sec or 16 K BITS /sec?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2007, 10:47:57 AM »
lastly, I understand the law regarding UK ATC streams, I take it liveatc.net wouldn't risk offering UK streams even if people in proximity of UK airports could offer them?

From what I have comprehended based on the numerous past threads regarding this subject, it is not a matter of LiveATC placing itself at risk since it is outside the jurisdiction of UK law.  Rather, the fact that LiveATC.net does not offer UK feeds is a matter of respect for that law.  The site founder did receive a letter from UK officials during a period where he was offering a UK feed and he opted to respect the request within the letter.

Hopefully the citizens of the UK will be able to overturn the rather archaic law and one day see a UK feed offered here.

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Re: Are the streams 16 K BYTES /sec or 16 K BITS /sec?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2007, 10:51:55 AM »
Are these streams 16 k bytes / sec or 16 k bits / sec

Oh, and I just checked the stream as reported by Windows Media Player and I am seeing 16 kilobits per second being reported when I listen to a stream.

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Re: Are the streams 16 K BYTES /sec or 16 K BITS /sec?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2007, 11:44:38 AM »
Hi,

First can I express the awesomeness of this site ;)

secondly, I am charged as per data usage by my ISP and im trying to get an idea of how much bandwidth I will use while listening to a stream.

Are these streams 16 k bytes / sec or 16 k bits / sec

I work out roughly that if the streams are k-bytes/sec, I will get roughly 1 minute of listening per megabyte of bandwidth.

If the streams are k-bits/sec, would that work out to be roughly 50 minutes of listening per megabyte of bandwidth?


lastly, I understand the law regarding UK ATC streams, I take it liveatc.net wouldn't risk offering UK streams even if people in proximity of UK airports could offer them?

Thanks

16kb/s (kilobits per second)
which is about 7.2 MB/hour or 172.8 MB/day (MB = megabytes)

As the other pjr mentioned, we do this only out of respect for the U.K. law.  For the record, we have no obligation whatsoever to abide by that law since we are not subject to the law.   I would hate for a U.K. citizen to be identified somehow as feeding one of those airports and then be prosecuted under the silly law.  Not worth the trouble.

The downside is that there is a plentiful supply of folks who want to feed a variety of U.K. Airports, including plenty for EGLL.  :)

We did have a few feeds for a short amount of time - but the fact of the matter is that there are folks who love to ruin a good thing and cry to the authorities.  :-)   Bottom line - we don't need the hassle.

-Dave

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Re: Are the streams 16 K BYTES /sec or 16 K BITS /sec?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2007, 06:55:55 PM »
thanks for that clarification gents!

I hope they change the law as I could maybe contribute a feed!