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Offline datainmotion

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Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« on: June 05, 2012, 03:03:57 PM »
Over the last couple of weeks, I have had my Uniden 785 (not currently feeding audio) scanning just the High and Ultra-High channels used on the ZDV feed. It makes transmissions a bit easier to follow than the curent feed, which is crowded to say the least.
My thought is to keep Low channels on the existing feed and use the 785 to send audio from High/U-High channels to a new feed.
Love to hear everyone's thoughts on this...



Offline JetScan1

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 10:57:05 AM »
My vote would be to split it. As at is now its so overloaded with frequencies its very difficult to listen to.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 12:22:39 PM »
159 looks and only 2 votes? :-o
Everyone is welcome to vote in this poll as well as share their opinion, so please do.

Thanks.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 01:14:29 AM »
Two weeks and all the votes are for a split ZDV feed. I'll get it ready...

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 10:00:46 AM »
Just a helpfull hint about the feeds. I have been listening this morning and it sounds good. the Low feeds frequency 133.95 if possible can be handled on both feeds since this frequency is a High Frequency as well a Low frequency. Also I dont know if you can check to see if 118.475 is on the low feed ?

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Mike in Boynton Beach FL

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 03:51:17 PM »
Hi Mike,

133.95 is Thurman (Low) and because of that, I am hesitant to add it to the High feed (it's very busy with traffic arriving/departing via the East). Which High sector is 133.95?

118.975 (S15-L) is being scanned on the Low feed. I may have given Dave an incorrect frequency on that one when the ZDV feed started and it was just never corrected on the posted list.

Mike
« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 03:53:01 PM by datainmotion »

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 04:11:04 PM »
133.95 sometimes operate the high that 126.875 covers I would say a good 70 % of THE time.  The low I meant was 118.475 not 118.975.  Anyway feed found good

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 02:14:23 AM »
Yep - my bad. 118.475 Sydney/Brush is being scanned.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 03:30:19 AM »
Hey,

I have a copy of the frequency and sector splits from the center itself. Would you like me to send it?

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 10:16:41 AM »
Im down with that. Please.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 12:53:38 PM »
I 'm always open to freq info...

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2012, 08:17:30 PM »
Wilco.
On the 785, its set per channel so give me a couple minutes and I'll have them all off delay.

*Done*
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 08:23:55 PM by datainmotion »

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2012, 09:54:34 PM »
Its a standard scanner. Delay is on or off. All channels have been programmed to off. I can tell the difference...

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2012, 09:55:41 PM »
In the audio, I mean, now that the delay is off. Sure you're not hearing looped audio from your player?

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2012, 10:25:17 PM »
Okay - my apologies. Programming via ARC250 and the delay selection is not a drop down, so each selection must be clicked through. I selected a blank the first time around and apparently needed to click 3 more times for "none".   :oops:

Needless to say, now there really is no delay, but whew, its tough to keep up with listening now... :|
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 10:30:05 PM by datainmotion »

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2012, 12:38:37 AM »
The thing is with the delay off you are hearing a lot more transmissions, probably around 35-40% more. In my opinion this is much better than having a 2 second delay after every transmission that was resulting in almost 20 to 25 seconds a minute that the scanner was stopped (dead air).
I appreciate the input. While I have always been an avid fan of monitoring in general, my habits from land mobile scanning (i.e. - using the delay to hear a response) have carried over into my feeds. It's apparent that the same effect may not be desired as much in aero monitoring (at least high altitude Center channels). Duly noted.

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It's hard to follow because you are scanning way to many busy frequencies which could be improved by not scanning as many.
I think you guys know by now that I am always open to suggestion and most of the time will defer to loyal listeners requests. I can certainly pare down the channels. With that said, my first thought is to do it geographically, starting with the most distant RCAG sites first (ZAB 71 and 72 come to mind). However, I also know someone with more experience in listening may suggest that I consider what airlanes are the busiest first, rather than just RCAG distance from my receiver. That's where I'd need some advice.

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I also notice you have the flightwatch frequency on the high feed, you have it listed on the low feed, moving it over there would help.
Gone from high and back to low. I also have retained Guard on Hi as we do get traffic on it from time to time (usually one flight calling another to inform them Center is trying to contact them).
While on that topic, I do have a couple other freqs on the high feed that I haven't listed as of yet - they are the TSU (Tactical Special Use) channel for ZDV and also the UHF freqs for the U-Hi Sectors of 18,30,38,65,67.

As always, I appreciate everyone's input to make any of my five feeds here more enjoyable!  :-D
« Last Edit: July 12, 2012, 12:52:22 AM by datainmotion »

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2012, 03:37:59 PM »
data, if you need help adding more channels, or shuffling stuff around, we should talk... I'm near I-25 and Arapahoe and have been thinking about adding stuff, but duplicating your work wouldn't be smart...

(I do the KAPA TWR feed right now, and it really does need a rebuild since that scanner has a slight hum and the PC is ancient. Perhaps it's time to start work on some new gear in a rack and build it all "right"... Maybe split some stuff Left/Right, etc... The whole thing is just kludged together right now but has been running a long time that way with no significant problems other than Comcast outages.)

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2012, 06:35:09 PM »
denverpilot - sent you a PM.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2012, 06:38:08 PM »
Hey,

I have a copy of the frequency and sector splits from the center itself. Would you like me to send it?

What - just tossed that teaser out there and then split?  :lol:
I think a number of us may want to see what info you have...

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2012, 04:52:18 PM »
Reviving dead thread...

We've been chatting. And I've been gathering gear...

BC780XLT, BC350A, power supply, antenna, connectors, coax, and assorted junk are already in "the project pile".

Waiting on some news about a very expensive automotive repair (wife's car's transmission) before committing to the multi port sound card and PC stuff.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2012, 05:13:44 PM »
Swapped the BC780XLT onto the KAPA TWR feed this afternoon. Also added two frequencies. (Sent to Dave for DB update.)

Audio quality and receiver sensitivity smoke the old scanner. Slight power supply him which will go away after I get the rack built with the DC supply in it.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2012, 01:39:49 PM »
Sounds excellent!

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2012, 12:44:52 AM »
Sound card still hasn't arrived, just for a tickler update. :-(

It's coming via slow free shipping, so maybe another week.

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2012, 04:21:26 AM »
Well - I've trimmed ZDV-Hi back to 18 freqs now (was 25) and ZDV-Lo is up one to 13.  8-)

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Re: Break ZDV feed into Hi/U-Hi and Low?
« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2012, 08:33:17 PM »
If I may ask which frequencies did you lop off the high feed. been tryingt o figure out which ones while looking at my flight tracker but your delay is off so its quite difficult trying to figure it out .