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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2006, 09:42:47 AM »

Quote from: davolijj
From the Good Book (7110.65P)
Note the note  rolleyes  at the bottom.

NOTE-Landing sequence number is optional at tower facilities where arrivals are sequenced by the approach control.

 cheesy I agree on everything that you posted Davolijj...but remember there is the approach sequence then there is the landing sequence.  The tower may have other traffic in the sequence such as T&G’s etc. that approach does not know about there fore the landing sequence may be much more different than the approach sequence, in Boston’s case...T&G’s may not be the reason.  

To elaborate on your answer:
Part of the question was “why do they sometimes state the runway and sometime don’t”.  Let's go back to your "bible of ATC" when more than one runway is in use:

a. Issue landing clearance. Restate the landing runway whenever more than one runway is active, or an instrument approach is being conducted to a closed runway.

Another reason why they don’t issue the landing clearance right away and say “continue”  or “expect late landing clearance” is a delay tactic to avoid clogging the frequency with required information such as exchanging traffic if you clear an aircraft to land and you have one in position that has not been clear for takeoff yet...i.e. paragraph b below:

b. "USN NOT APPLICABLE." Inform the closest aircraft that is cleared to land, touch-and-go, stop-and-go, or unrestricted low approaches when there is traffic holding on the same runway.
"Delta One, cleared to land. Traffic holding in position."
"Delta One, runway one eight, cleared to land. Traffic holding in position."
A clearance to land means that appropriate separation on the landing runway will be ensured. A landing clearance does not relieve the pilot from compliance with any previously issued restriction.

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2006, 12:04:15 PM »

Quote from: FlySafe
...but remember there is the approach sequence then there is the landing sequence.  The tower may have other traffic in the sequence such as T&G’s etc..

More often then not they are the same, especially when running visual approaches.

I think ultimately this whole topic is a technique item anyway and debating it would only be splitting hairs.  Aside from the phraseology section in 3-8-1, and the phraseology examples in 3-10-6, there is no mandatory requirement anywhere in the 7110 for a local controller to issue sequence numbers.  In fact, the only reference I can find to it from a procedural standpoint is contained in the  note you quoted.

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