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« on: January 03, 2005, 09:00:56 PM »

I'm not sure who the person who has the CYYZ-Toronto feed but if you could possibly include the Toronto Centre Grimsby Sector Feed 133.3 on here ...that would be awesome Cheesy ...cause i'm in Buffalo and I can hear the aircraft but I can't hear the controllers...THANKS!
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2005, 08:03:47 PM »

Not asking for much.  But I thought I would ask as well.  Is it possible to hear these too or would it make too busy of a feed to follow?  I know it's hard enough trying to keep up with an Air traffic controller talking:

121.500 - Air Emergency

121.225 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Killaloe Sector)        - East Hi-Alt     North Bay, Ontario
124.375 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Mitchell Sector)    - West Hi-Alt   Wiarton, Ontario
124.675 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Picton Sector)        - East Hi-Alt   Coe Hill, Ontario
127.000 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Simcoe Sector)          - East Lo-Alt     PIA Toronto, Ontario
132.375 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Killaloe Sector)                   North Bay, Ontario
134.425 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Sault High Sector)           Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
134.575 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Barrie Sector)    - East Hi-Alt    PIA Toronto, Ontario

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I'm not sure who the person who has the CYYZ-Toronto feed but if you could possibly include the Toronto Centre Grimsby Sector Feed 133.3 on here ...that would be awesome Cheesy ...cause i'm in Buffalo and I can hear the aircraft but I can't hear the controllers...THANKS!
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2005, 04:19:48 PM »

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I'm not sure who the person who has the CYYZ-Toronto feed but if you could possibly include the Toronto Centre Grimsby Sector Feed 133.3 on here ...that would be awesome Cheesy ...cause i'm in Buffalo and I can hear the aircraft but I can't hear the controllers...THANKS!


I may be mistaken, but I believe 133.3 is a low level Toronto Satellite sector frequency. If the sector is not too busy, they often combine sectors with other Satellite sectors. This web site http://www.ykf.ca includes the Toronto west Satellite frequency 128.27 and often combines to work traffic into St. Catharines and Hamilton. I think Grimsby is half way between the two.

Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but thought I'd suggest it.

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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2005, 10:07:47 PM »

Added 133.3 but unsure if able to hear pilot's/controller's

ATC-CANADA, All these freqs are too far away from my area, i can only pick up pilot's/controllers near the closest transmitter wich is PIA TORONTO.Adding Simcoe Sector and Barrie Sector will be too much.

Added 121.5
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2005, 10:23:28 PM »

My 2 cents. Given the volume of traffic, there are too many frequencies being scanned as it is. It would be far better to just monitor approach/departure OR the enroute/high sectors separately, but not both at the same time. A possible solution might be to rotate through different sectors for a given time, instead of trying to listen to everything at once ? Like maybe concentrate on approach/departure for a week then maybe switch to the west low sectors then east high sectors etc. I realize this would be time consuming for the operator, and is only a suggestion.

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2005, 10:32:32 PM »

Is there much activity for PIA on 121.5?

And with the Enroute frequencies, those are what I can hear as far as the aircraft, I figured those aircraft are talking to Toronto Centre so I might here the Control Centre as well then.  Just a suggestion, but like someone else suggested also. It might be more suitable to have a seperate feed just for Enoute travel, that way atleast the ones in Ontario that are listening to the scanners that can hear the air travel, might enjoy being able to hear the ATC as well.

Great feed by the way, it does sound busy enough.

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ATC-CANADA, All these freqs are too far away from my area, i can only pick up pilot's/controllers near the closest transmitter wich is PIA TORONTO.Adding Simcoe Sector and Barrie Sector will be too much.

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 05:41:04 PM »

From 8am to 10pm i will be scanning TWR/DEP/ARR from 10pm to 8am i will be scanning TWR/DEP/ARR plus the centre freq's (quiet hours).I will set this up later tonight.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 05:56:19 PM »

Hey this sounds great.  I hope I wouldn't be stepping on any toe's here by asking if there's an updated frequency list from what's on the listing page.


I'll stick around to see how well this works.  i'll line up 20 freqs. to listen to in my scanner. And I'll see if I can hear the tower match up.

With the icecast servers that you use.  How much lag for time is there between the stream and the actual communications?


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On Listing Page:

Toronto Pearson Tower: 118.7,118.35,(118.0 backup)
Toronto Arrival: 132.8,124.475,125.4
Toronto Departure: 128.8,127.575


Toronto Centre:
(Hamilton Sector) 132.475
(Centralia Sector) 125.775
(East Sadar) 124.92
(East Satellite) 133.4
(West Satellite) 119.3
(Simco Sector) 127.0
(Barrie Ssector) 134.57
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This is what I could here for the aircraft.  So would you need to have those same freq's for the tower, or are they crossed over to localized tower frequencies?

121.225 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Killaloe Sector)        - East Hi-Alt        North Bay, Ontario
124.375 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Mitchell Sector)    - West Hi-Alt      Wiarton, Ontario
124.675 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Picton Sector)        - East Hi-Alt      Coe Hill, Ontario
127.000 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Simcoe Sector)       - East Lo-Alt        PIA Toronto, Ontario
132.375 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Killaloe Sector)                   North Bay, Ontario
134.425 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Sault High Sector)           Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
134.575 - Enroute - YYZ Toronto ACC   (Barrie Sector)    - East Hi-Alt       PIA Toronto, Ontario
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From 8am to 10pm i will be scanning TWR/DEP/ARR from 10pm to 8am i will be scanning TWR/DEP/ARR plus the centre freq's (quiet hours).I will set this up later tonight.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 09:28:43 PM »

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Hey this sounds great.  I hope I wouldn't be stepping on any toe's here by asking if there's an updated frequency list from what's on the listing page.


I'll stick around to see how well this works.  i'll line up 20 freqs. to listen to in my scanner. And I'll see if I can hear the tower match up.

With the icecast servers that you use.  How much lag for time is there between the stream and the actual communications?

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Not stepping at all.  Eventually, I will have a system where feed operators can enter their own data.  For now, I depend on them to give it to me.    Since it doesn't change often, it's not a real big deal.  If they provide updates, I get the updates in pretty quickly.

CYYZ is one of our best feeds (thanks Luc!) due to Luc's proximity to the airport and great receiving location.  In busy areas like Toronto, it is tempting to want to listen to as much as possible.  Personally, I like a variety, and I prefer approach control over Tower, and Tower over en route.  But that's a preference order...I like them all!  Everyone has his thing.  smiley

The difficulty is finding a balance.  In the single scanner situation that we're in, you're almost always missing something in a busy area.  The goal here is to provide variety and, where possible, provide separate feeds of Tower, etc.  Polls don't work...everyone wants something different.  They can help gauge what people are interested, but to an extent I leave it up to the person providing the feed uplink.  I advise where I think it makes sense.

As to the audio delay, it is typically about 30-40 seconds and depends on a number of factors.

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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2005, 02:13:33 PM »

how about a daily alternation of toronto app/dep freq's and center freq's instead of only center at night where there is little traffic if at all in the air.Just a humble request.Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2005, 11:43:33 AM »

What's readily available now (and free) is the ability to tag a name to a specific frequency. This name appears on the the audio player a listener is using and changes as the scanner stops at the next frequency.

For example, if Toronto Tower frequency is 118.2, a tag that reads "Toronto Tower" is tied to 118.2 and every time the scanner stops on 118.2 it sends information to the audio player that will display "Toronto Tower".

This solves the most common complaint about listening to ATC feeds, in that often with so many frequencies offered, the listener is quickly lost as to who they are listening to.

Now the scanner must have a serial port on the back, but this is more and more common now, and certainly these types of scanners can be found on ebay for less than $100.

Guess what it means is that as time goes by, more and more feeds will start offering this, making ATC monitoring more enjoyable.

Here's a demo if you're interested. (Hope the feed is busy enough. It's slow in the winter). Click on http://www.ykf.ca.

I know it works with Winamp. I would be interested to know from anyone using a player other than Winamp if these "Tags" work.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2005, 12:30:55 AM »

Alpha tagging like this seems to have taken off quite well.

I listen to numerous scanner feeds that use these.  Massachucets, San Diego, etc...

That would make to be a nice addition if it were possible.

There's been disussions about this on the yahoo group LiveScannerAudio http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LiveScannerAudio

Here's a good listing of feeds with the alpha tags http://dir.xiph.org/index.php?sgenre=Scanner


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What's readily available now (and free) is the ability to tag a name to a specific frequency. This name appears on the the audio player a listener is using and changes as the scanner stops at the next frequency.

For example, if Toronto Tower frequency is 118.2, a tag that reads "Toronto Tower" is tied to 118.2 and every time the scanner stops on 118.2 it sends information to the audio player that will display "Toronto Tower".

This solves the most common complaint about listening to ATC feeds, in that often with so many frequencies offered, the listener is quickly lost as to who they are listening to.

Now the scanner must have a serial port on the back, but this is more and more common now, and certainly these types of scanners can be found on ebay for less than $100.

Guess what it means is that as time goes by, more and more feeds will start offering this, making ATC monitoring more enjoyable.

Here's a demo if you're interested. (Hope the feed is busy enough. It's slow in the winter). Click on http://www.ykf.ca.

I know it works with Winamp. I would be interested to know from anyone using a player other than Winamp if these "Tags" work.

Peter
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2005, 07:08:32 PM »

Hi Cyyz Luc.p,

I'm impressed by how cliear the signal is from your feed !

I've sat in the (now closed Sad ) Boeing parking lot with a scanner and not receieved as clear a signal as you are getting !

Where are you located?

What kind of scanner are you using?   Are you using an external antenna?

Mike
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2005, 11:57:05 PM »

Mike, My Apartment is just under the localizer of Runway 24R.Distance between my apt and the airport is around 6miles, so I am pretty close to the airport.

Using External Antenna from my balcony that connects to my BC350C (Home base Scanner)

I use the Sportcat 180 from uniden every time I head out to plane spot. Nice clear voice and easy to switch freq. About 300$ Check out this site http://www.radioworld.ca/. You can also check out these Aviation Hobby stores http://aviationworld.net or http://www.thresholdaviation.com

Luc
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« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2005, 09:50:49 AM »

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Hi Cyyz Luc.p,

I've sat in the (now closed Sad ) Boeing parking lot with a scanner and not receieved as clear a signal as you are getting !

Mike


The chances are good that your computer speakers are far superior to the speaker in your scanner.

The excellent quality of the Toronto feed has a lot to do with the position (height) of the antenna used, computer and sound card or audio device being utilized.

I'd be willing to guess that Luc would much rather listen to his own feed through his computer than to unplug and listen to the feed over the speaker in his scanner.

And you're correct, it is one of the clearest feeds I've heard. Thanks Luc
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