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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2005, 04:09:19 PM »

Hi there,

The frequency for GR (Grimsby) sector has been changed to 120.17 mHz, at least temporarily, due to coverage issues with the main frequency of 133.3.  I don't know how long it will last, but NavCan technicians are working on it now.

East Satellite actually has the 133.4 mHz frequency.

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2005, 04:08:40 AM »

I am moving to Toronto (Mississauga more precisely) in about 3 weeks and would be willing to set up a second YYZ feed, if technically possible.  My apartment is about 5km south of the airport (good), just about lined up on final if you are landing 33L (the ACC itself is right next to the 33L threshold).  It's on the 7th floor of a high-rise (18 stories) building (good);  unfortunately, my balcony faces south, the opposite direction from the airport (not so good).  I'm not sure if this will be a deal-breaker or not, what with line-of-sight issues.  Should be able to hear the pilots really well;  not sure about the controllers yet.  You guys may know more about what kind of reception I can expect given the situation.

The only scanning I've done to date is with a standard-issue $75 Radio Shack handheld, which needless to say is far from the most powerful.  I had it with me and would have liked to try it out from the balcony when we were closing the deal on the apt. yesterday, but the apt. complex rep was there so I didn't want to have to explain .. sure you all know the drill.  In any case, I'd be willing to look into an outdoor antenna I could mount on the balcony somewhere -- I'm clueless about the technology but I'm sure that there are folks here who could talk me through it.

Luc's feed does a great job with terminal/tower so I would probably look to add a few of the sectors that work the bedposts into YYZ, or possibly the satellite sectors if people want to hear those, but I'd be willing to listen to requests, for sure.  It's the least I can do;  I listen to Luc's feed, and others at liveatc.net, just about every day, so if I can contribute I would be pleased to do so.

If my apt. location doesn't end up working, I may be able to work something out later on, as the reason I'm moving to Toronto is to work at the ACC, though I don't start right away.

Any thoughts as to sound quality I can expect?  Is it worth investing in an outdoor antenna, and where would I be able to get such a thing (I did an online search and didn't come up with much)?  If the consensus seems to be that it ought to work, I will try to set something up sometime in the next few months, after we get unpacked and settled in.

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2005, 05:51:33 AM »

Sounds great, MS.  Contact me offline or you can hook up with Luc and he can help out.  He's very knowledgeable as well.

And congrats on your acceptance into the program up there!  Should be fun.

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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2005, 02:10:02 PM »

I live on the 2nd floor, just under ILS24R 5miles from the runway and facing south. The only problem is a/c's coming from the north/north east sounds a bit choppy due to the line of sight, but that’s about it. Since you’re facing the opposite direction from the acc/airports, I don't know if it’s going to work. The pilots you will hear fine except for a/c coming from the north. The PIA(Pearson) Transmitter is located at the airport, so try it with your scanner and see if you pick up anything.

http://www.radioworld.ca/ <----Aviation antenna
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2005, 02:03:58 PM »

Luc...I am considerind buying an apartment in Toronto to have a place to stay when my wife and i visit our family over there. I am looking at a place called the Pinnacle on the harbour front 10 th floor It is front of Union station...what hope of two way cyyz on a scanner with small antennae on the balcony?? m50
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2005, 12:12:58 AM »

M, one guy lives at lake shore on the 25th floor and he's hearing continuous static. Now it all depends on which way your facing the transmitter. Facing south wouldn’t be good because the airports are complete north/north west of the city. You would be able to catch pilots clearly depending on there location, but atc might be choppy. Try it first and if you have good reception, than buy an aviation antenna.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2005, 03:51:23 AM »

Another factor is how much man-made noise you pick up (computer noise, power-line noise, etc.).  This can be substantial in some locales, so much so that it masks VHF airband signals.

As others have pointed out, though, being on the wrong side of a large metal  building can be pretty debilitating to radio signals.

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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2005, 05:26:59 AM »

Thanks for the help and advice guys....I cant get up to try it out as the condo tower is only being built at the moment!!!  Thanks   m50
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2005, 09:54:12 PM »

Luc,

What type of antenna are you using?  It is a normal VHF antenna or a avaiation band tuned antenna?

I live in Markham (about 12 to 15 miles from CYYZ, and not an apartment) and sometimes, * if the conditions are right*, I can use a "random wire" stuck high on the ceiling to pick to the Tower transmission, although quite a lot of static, but I can still hear to it .. (I don't live on high rise)..  I use an ICOM R5 though, which the sentivity is pretty good..  Pilots are always clear..

So I always wonder if upgrading the antenna would provide me a stronger signal..  

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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2005, 09:07:44 AM »

This topic is relatively interesting.  I posted something earlier about my previous listening to 132.37, the former Kilalloe sector (North Bay/Sudbury hi alt) where pilots complained of hearing the Cleveland OH ATIS and that freq as posted is changed to 121.22.  NOw Montreal ACC is adding new frequencies and feeding more open 'repeaters' onto the 133.97 freq.  There are alot of old freq's coming and old ones going.  

I myself have 2 scanners and I had the capability, I'd upload a 24/7 link of Montreal 133.97 and Toronto on 128.3   However, my resources are too limited.
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2005, 03:10:48 PM »

VHF or Aviation antenna i don't know, but its made by radialllarsen.
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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2005, 09:45:23 PM »

Thanks for that information guys.  For some reason, I thought the ACC was located just beneath the tower's control floor.  So now I can picture it on the west side of the feel by runway 15-33, am I correct?  And wayyyyyyyyyy up there in a building?  Has anyone been inside and familiar with the operations?
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2005, 02:13:21 AM »

The ACC is right dead center in this picture:



Separate building from tower, yes.  The ACC is adjacent to the 33L threshold and the tower is a bit further north.  It's like a one-minute walk, and the tower guys come over all the time to use the cafeteria.  Not sure what you mean by "way up there," we're at ground level -- we don't have a view of the airport ops in the radar room (dark, windowless), except via radar obviously.  The spotting from the parking lot is pretty awesome, though.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2005, 09:10:01 AM »

Heard something yesterday on 135.200 which is 135.200 - Enroute - ZUL Montreal ACC      (Cobden Sector)                    Pembroke, Ontario  they had mentioned something about simulcasting on 121.225 (correct freq. btw) wasn't able to copy the whole transmissions but I guess that's what they were doing. Simulcasting on both frequencies for some reason.

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This topic is relatively interesting.  I posted something earlier about my previous listening to 132.37, the former Kilalloe sector (North Bay/Sudbury hi alt) where pilots complained of hearing the Cleveland OH ATIS and that freq as posted is changed to 121.22.  NOw Montreal ACC is adding new frequencies and feeding more open 'repeaters' onto the 133.97 freq.  There are alot of old freq's coming and old ones going.  

I myself have 2 scanners and I had the capability, I'd upload a 24/7 link of Montreal 133.97 and Toronto on 128.3   However, my resources are too limited.
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« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2005, 06:15:00 PM »

I wonder if that's possible.  I don't think that two ATC facilities can simulcast their frequencies.
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