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« on: July 25, 2007, 10:07:28 PM »

So, I live in hermosa beach, CA, a Google Maps estimated 6.7 miles south of KLAX.  I'm in a townhouse high up on a hill (hell yea ocean view) just east of Pacific Coast Highway.  If noone else is closer, I'd be willing to try and provide this glorius site with the elusive LAX feed...

Now here are a few issues, (before you all cry out in ecstasy):

1) I'm a relative radio newbie.  My only experience with a scanner is the handheld pro-82 I boosted from a friend for a month before he took it back (but I got to hear some nice LAX traffic when I drove up to it).  I'm also a wage earning college student so I can't drop too many big bucks on a scanner, but yea I need help picking one out.  I already read through some of the scanner website linked from the FAQ section but here's what i'm thinking, and also takes us to number:

2) What LAX feed(s) do we want?  As many of you know, they split up the north and south sides of the airport.  I'm gonna guess that most people want the tower feeds, so someone give me suggestions of a not too crazy expensive scanner that is able to scan/flip between both north and south towers (kind of like how its done over at the JFK feed.

3) This fall I start my last year at UCLA, and Lord willing i'll get into medical school and will be outta here by this time next summer.  Unfortunatlely, this means that we'll only get about a year of the feed, but I figure that's better than nothing, right?

4) I don't know the signal quality i'll get.  It's yet to be determined.  Bigger problem: I'm renting, not owning, so a permanent antenna mount probably won't make my landlady happy, but i'm a risktaker, so we'll worry about this later.



I think the only possible deal breakers are number 4 or someone being closer and cooler than me, but i'm willing to try as far as i'm able.

So, companions, first step is to find a scanner for me to test out at the place.  Hit me with some suggestions on what we want here (and with moral support), and sorry for the ridiculously long message.

And go Bruins.


-Adarsh



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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 10:35:26 PM »

I'd be willing to donate 50' of RG8 cable and a Radio Shack discone antenna with the caveat that you box it up and return it to me when you move out of the area and close up the feed (I'll pay the return shipping via PayPal).

So, all you need is a scanner, always-connected Internet access, and a PC/laptop that doesn't get turned off a lot.  Of those items, what do you have now?
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 11:52:10 PM »

You have the 5 Cab frequencies; 2x Local, 2x Ground and 1x Delivery. I personally would love to see either one of the two "final" controllers ie Downe (South Complex) or Stadium (North Complex).

A Downe and South Local would be very cool. That would be busier than a North local, Statium. I don't think you would want to put any more than 2 or 3 frequencies onto the scanner because of how busy LAX can become. It starts getting disjointed very quickly.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2007, 12:04:02 AM »

I've got the always on internet, and a laptop that i pretty much never use that i can dedicate to this.  That antenna equip. would be very very handy, and of course I'd send it back to you.  One question: could it be mounted to, say, the vertical posts of a railing?  If so, I think I have a decently high place to put it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2007, 12:28:06 AM »

Thanks for trying to do this. Good luck with medical school, I'm right in the same position....you should come over to Cornell here in NYC tongue
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2007, 08:29:56 AM »

One question: could it be mounted to, say, the vertical posts of a railing?  If so, I think I have a decently high place to put it.

Yes, you should be able to mount the antenna to the vertical posts using standard U brackets.  I might have the original U brackets that mounted the antenna at my place; let me look around for them.  If not you could pick up two at your local hardware store for a few bucks.

The only potential impediment is that the antenna does have several "spines" sticking off it so if space is tight you might have a problem.  See the pix here for what I mean:



You know, I also have an older Radio Shack hand-held scanner I suppose I could throw into the mix, which pretty much completes your requirements.  I was saving this for the Oshkosh 2008 feeder if he ever resurfaces, but you know the saying, "a bird in the hand."

Send me a PM here with your address details.  It will either be later this week or next week before I can get the package out in the mail, due to crunch time where I am currently consulting. 

edit:  corrected a few grammatical errors.  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2007, 10:03:16 AM »

Given his proximity and elevation, the stock antenna might work! It's worth a try at least. He can always upgrade to a better antenna after testing.

I think it would be important to decide if this is going to cover final approach or tower. It would be a mistake to try to cover 2 final approaches, 2 towers, 2 gnds and delivery. I would think nobody would be happy with the final result of that Smiley

I'd vote for the towers, gnd and del.  Even better...purchase a USB soundcard (they're very cheap on ebay) so you have a second device. Pick up two cheap scanners and run two feeds Wink  If that's not an option, the community would be greatful for even a single feed!
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2007, 10:36:41 AM »

Given his proximity and elevation, the stock antenna might work! It's worth a try at least. He can always upgrade to a better antenna after testing.

Perhaps.  He will get both.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2007, 01:29:23 PM »

I would like to see Tower/ ground/ clearance delivery would be neat to hear, that would be my request being we already have approach.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2007, 01:48:49 PM »

I would like to see Tower/ ground/ clearance delivery would be neat to hear, that would be my request being we already have approach.

Yes.. but no. Smiley

We have one part of SCT going into LAX. From there they get handed off to the Downe and Stadium sectors that Dave mentioned. The transmitters for those are well beyond the range that Mike has his feed for. Having all of those would be great, but hey, I'd be happy with whatever we could get!

BL.
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2007, 03:10:30 PM »

Give me scanner models!

Like I said, I'm no expert, so what are some that get good signal and can be easily programmed to scan a coupla frequencies?

With that and a scanner peter may donate, I'd be willing to get 2 sound cards up for approaches and tower ops separately.

The final decision on frequencies will probably come down to a vote, taking into mind that there might be enough radio traffic on the North and South complex towers alone so that north or south Ground or clearance wouldn't make sense on that same scanner, but keep the discussion going.

The possibilities are endless folks! Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2007, 10:14:05 PM »

Im just happy that someone has volunteered for a LAX feed so anything would be cool, but if it is coming down to a vote I'll throw in North and South Complex Towers.

Mark
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2007, 03:06:48 AM »

I hope you guys make this happen as we have needed a KLAX local feed for a long time
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2007, 12:59:10 PM »

athaker-

You're getting some great help from ksyr-pjr...send me a PM and we'll talk.  We should be able to donate a scanner or two, with the same strings tied (just box up and return when you're done).

Thanks,
Dave

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 04:34:53 PM »

Ok, the "FEED-IN-A-BOX" with all the LAX goodies is now in the hands of UPS Ground.  Sadly, it will take at least until Friday, 8/3 before it is delivered since UPS Ground is one step above Pony Express.
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