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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2009, 08:28:18 PM »

Rekno - I found what I was looking for that reminded me of your visualizations. I had to dig thru all my favorites to find it. Here is the link:

I like your work. Pretty neat.  grin
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2009, 10:46:05 PM »

Hey that is pretty cool. I saw a few of those that were in the "related" video part of youtube but never that specific one. Airplane flight routs are so pretty!

Update: Just finish BUF. Didn't want to use up a line so just modifying this post:

http://imgur.com/SBR3c.jpg

Also, trying to finish the NYC one, but EWR feed is down, not sure how to tell what runways they landed on since there are parallels. : (

Update 2: NYC airspace done (except for the EWR runway accuracy)
http://i.imgur.com/CziiQ.jpg
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 12:32:02 PM »

I can do KLAS and KBUF next. What is the most interesting time for those airports?

Like when can I get the right turnout for KLAS?

You'll generally catch the STAAV4 departure (that's the RNAV SID that does the right turnout) any time Configuration #1 is in use (read: calm wind runways. Those would be 25L/R and 19L/R in use). If winds are less than 10kts from any direction, you should catch those, so definitely check the METAR and TAFs for that given day.

I hate to say this, but you may have to do multiple times for this and other airports, given the different configurations they have. For this time of year, #1 and #3 are used mainly at LAS, depending on winds (#3 is landing 25L, landing and departing 1L/R; there are 7 different configs at LAS). But for the STAAV SID, it is only used in #1.

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 01:51:26 PM »

Cool. Yeah I planned to do different times for places like NYC, because of their dramatic changes in Pattern.

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2009, 09:07:19 PM »

there was one of these for all ny airports simulaneously. I will try and find it. Cool stuff
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2009, 12:25:04 AM »

I was looking at flightaware METAR data, how would I know which procedures were used at what time?

Also guess it was too windy for 25L/R takeoffs today, hearing and seeing 1L/Rs

Update:

http://imgur.com/eN1yE.jpg

Take off on 1R landings on 25L and 1L (didn't hear 25R mentioned I think, except to cross it)
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2009, 04:13:36 AM »

I was looking at flightaware METAR data, how would I know which procedures were used at what time?

Also guess it was too windy for 25L/R takeoffs today, hearing and seeing 1L/Rs

Update:

http://imgur.com/eN1yE.jpg

Take off on 1R landings on 25L and 1L (didn't hear 25R mentioned I think, except to cross it)

This would be Configuration #3. 25L and 1L are used for arrivals, with 1L and 1R for departures. 25R is not active in this setup and is controlled by ground.

This is pretty freakin' sweet. Thank you! Mind if I repost this in another forum? credit will go to you, of course.

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2009, 10:29:52 AM »

I have a dumb question.  Are these color coded by airline? I love the different colors but didn't see a map legend to explain them.  Thanks.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2009, 02:41:55 PM »

Hey tyketto.

Sure you can share it. I have some local interest for art prints so that might be available at some point. Like you can get one already made or have a custom one where you pick the airport and time. Still working out the details but will keep you informed.

Steelrman, they are coded by airlines. Which is neat cause JFK you see dominantly the blue for JetBlue, and LAS you see all the orange for Southwest. It wasn't meant to be a diagram and more an abstract piece which is why the legends were not placed on the pieces. But I will provide that separately later when I get home.

Update: Airline colors: http://imgur.com/4xfKY.png

The problem is, hard to pick a special color sometimes. But I tried to make the more prominent ones brighter. Shrug. I'll be doing some revisions in the future to the color chart.
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« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 02:57:11 AM »

Very cool man! I've been really interested in infographics as of late and this definitely piqued my interest. Would love to see one for Austin (KAUS) *nudge, nudge*. Smiley

How much time does it take to do each one, and are you just sampling each airport's flightaware.com and liveatc data for a random amount of time or is it more "setup" than that? Hope that makes sense.
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« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 02:34:34 PM »

Hey Squeegeeboy. It takes an evening usually, depending on number of flights in a given hour.

I target specific hour of a specific day. And I grab the atc archive for that hour as well, just to have more info.

This way I can try to catch, for example, JFK when they switch patterns to illustrate a different pattern.

(Have not had the will power to go back to new york yet though... too many flights... haha. )

Update: New JFK one. http://imgur.com/ZLLYN.jpg . Landing on 13L and 22L, take off on 13R. I thought I heard a 22R landing while I was at work but I couldn't hear it again on the archive, if someone knows the procedure for this pattern can you tell me if 22R is used at all please?

 
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« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2009, 10:53:25 AM »

This is very cool stuff!
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« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2009, 02:32:47 PM »

I can do KLAS and KBUF next. What is the most interesting time for those airports?

Like when can I get the right turnout for KLAS?

You should be able to catch it now. Winds are calm, so configuration #1 is in use (25s/19s) as those are the calm wind runways. Since the STAAV4 is only used off of 25R, you should be able to catch it now.

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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2009, 01:20:32 PM »

I see, thanks for clarifying. Breaking it up into 1-hour chunks seems a lot less daunting, haha.
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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2009, 02:45:37 PM »

Hey all, been kind of busy lately so have not done anything new. Currently I'm trying to work on KAUS, but their feed is down and I was wondering if there are records online of what runway planes took off from? They are parallel so its kind of hard to figure out which one they used. Or if anyone know the airport really well, maybe they only used one today?
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