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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 02:16:37 AM »

Yes, Tuner will work on an iPod Touch....but of course only on Wifi.

I concur about Tuner...it is officially awesome and gives you full access to LiveATC streams.  My complex, Orb-oriented config to get Live ATC on my iPhone is history.  I highly recommend Nullriver's Tuner app.

Only word of caution....you will really need to have an iPhone 3G to access any of the high bandwidth Internet radio stuff.  But as stated before Tuner works great over EDGE for any of the Liveatc.net streams.
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 06:04:09 AM »

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You have to bookmark the streams, but by going to 'Search' and then 'Open', entering the Title of your choosing (for example 'LiveATC.net KJFK Tower') and then entering the .m3u URL:  http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kjfk_twr it'll open and start playing.

You should start using the new URL format:

http://d.liveatc.net/kjfk_twr

Better yet, for mobile clients use: http://alt.liveatc.net/kjfk_twr - it has less latency and is more static since it doesn't go through the load balancer.  So bookmarks will be a little more reliable since you are always hitting one server and not being redirected.

The http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kjfk_twr wil stop working at some point.

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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 07:34:05 AM »

Very nice!
I had heard good things about Tuner. I work right next to Guidance helicopter school at Prescott Love Field in Arizona and wanted a way to hear some friends flying around or just see what's going on during my breaks.

It seems to work very well and the current Metar being displayed on the screen is a nice touch. Thanks everyone for the short how to's.
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2008, 08:06:45 AM »

thanks for the tip dave! i'll update my bookmarks.
i was wondering about the alternative URL, but i thought i'd play it safe and go by what's already playing on my itunes Smiley

EDIT: you don't have to manually input the title name of the feed, just the URL address. Tuner will automatically get the name of the feed. Also, once it's opened and started playing be sure to add it as a bookmark by selecting the bookmark symbol on the top right of the player and hitting save. Or else you'll have to keep on manually inputting the address each time you want to listen to the feed.
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2008, 01:27:19 PM »

Thanks for mentioning Tuner!

I just got my iPhone and was looking to see what apps I could use for listening to the feeds! Quick question.. How much of a hit does the battery take if you listen to a feed for about 4 - 5 hours?

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2008, 01:37:48 PM »

Thanks for mentioning Tuner!

I just got my iPhone and was looking to see what apps I could use for listening to the feeds! Quick question.. How much of a hit does the battery take if you listen to a feed for about 4 - 5 hours?

BL.


From a full charge my phone has been on standby for 4hrs 43mins, with 2hrs 21 mins usage.
In that time i've been listening to LiveATC on 3G and Wifi, took a 15 min phone call and sent a number of texts. My battery is currently half full.

One tip: When listening to LiveATC streams on the tuner, turn off the 3G and Location services (if you have it) and listen via Wifi or EDGE/GPRS. This will increase your battery life significantly.

I don't know if there's any differences in battery consumption between listening via EDGE/GPRS and Wifi.

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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2008, 02:24:21 AM »

I can't announce a release date yet, but I am planning an iPhone version of a LiveATC client that will have location-based services.  If your location can be determined you will be presented with a list of feeds close to you.  It's still in the planning stages but I'd love to hear about features you think might be useful to you. 

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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2008, 03:29:13 AM »

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Just an update on my use of Nullriver's Tuner app for the iPhone...

As per my previous post the setup of liveatc.net streams worked great on my original iPhone (EDGE version).  I was using the URLs Dave recommended (e.g. SFO Tower - http://alt.liveatc.net/ksfo_twr) and all was great when these were saved as bookmarks.

As it turned out my iPhone 3G came in today (ordered at my local AT&T store) and when I moved everything over to that phone Tuner stopped working for liveATC - I get "unrecognized stream type text/html" errors whether I specify the exact URL above or try to reference the M3U stream type.

I am waiting to hear back from Nullriver but not sure if there is a 3G problem or a new version of Tuner problem.  If somebody else has this working on the 3G and can say how they got it to work...I am all ears...

UPDATE 8/7:  Turns out its working for some feeds (KDAY, YPPH) but not others (SFO, JFK).  Don't know why...still researching

UPDATE #2:  Looks like its working....it might have been user error on URLs....anyway...better

--Scott
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2008, 07:11:43 PM »

scott:

i had the same problem, but for me it turned out that my iphone had automatically connected to a t-mobile wifi connection that was requiring money... so my iphone was thinking it was connected to the internet, when in fact it would only show the registration page. i just turned off the wifi and connected via 3G and the streams worked great.

you could try restarting your phone. i've found that most of the problems found on my iphone 3G can be fixed by a simple reboot.

also, have you tried re-installing the app? hold down the icon until it starts to wobble, press the x button next to it and confirm delete. you can then go back to the app store download page and re-download it for free with the same user-id you used to purchase the app first time round.

but it sounds like you've got it working anyways. Smiley

dave:

that's awesome! an dedicated liveatc app would be a pretty handy. one request is possibly to have an visual equalizer when the stream is being played.
why i suggested this is because with all mobile devices the chances of a connection being dropped are fairly high, especially on the move. plus with ATC containing a lot of dead air, it would be easy to determine between dead air and a dropped connection with an visual eq. even with the dead air, there's always a slight sound of constant static which will make the eq wave a little. Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2008, 07:08:08 AM »

Use the Tuner app on the IPOD Touch with ver 2 software and it works fine with LiveATC.  Use the http://d.liveatc.net/kxxx address format.   Sometimes get a message that it cannot recognize text/HTML but press the play icon and it starts up.  Just wish it would multitask so I can watch my SBS radar (also on the IPOD using Mocha VNC) while listening to LiveATC.

Scorp / Ralph
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2008, 02:05:22 AM »

While we're on the subject of the iPhone here, I'll throw up a little something I've been working on..

Not much, but here's a list of apps for the phone that would help a pilot or increase one's enjoyment of the feeds here. DISCLAIMER: I have not tried these (yet), but am posting them as I see them. This may be broken out into its own thread.

http://tinyurl.com/5u2vwz

Something to go along with Dave's setup for the feeds with the most inclement weather.

http://tinyurl.com/6m5tny

With this, you can retrieve the METARs, TAFs, and weather charts for airportsi n the US, as well as has access to sectionals and airports near your location.

http://tinyurl.com/6xdcpu

Portable logbook for pilots who want the convenience of logging your flights while on the go.

And obviously,

http://tinyurl.com/6nrqq6

Tuner. Nothing more needs to be said about that one. Wink

Enjoy!

BL.
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2008, 10:04:57 PM »

I download that app Saturday - It worked for one day, now every time I select it from the main page, the app pops up for a few seconds then disappears.

Anyone else have that problem? 
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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2008, 10:15:07 PM »

I download that app Saturday - It worked for one day, now every time I select it from the main page, the app pops up for a few seconds then disappears.

Anyone else have that problem? 


Which app? Tuner, or the others I mentioned (I didn't put the names on them; I'll edit my post in a bit to add them).

BL.
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2008, 10:31:09 PM »

The tuner.   I am trying it again - I will post an update Tuesday.

By the way - point the iPhone browser to aviation.mobi   it is good (and free!)

Edit - UPdate - I deleted it from the phone and resync'd it and it is working fine.  I have been using it about a week.

Thanks

Jim
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2008, 12:25:47 PM »

Works great in my office, I only get 1 to 2 bars on EDGE!
Thanks for the great tip!!

Nate
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