LiveATC.net mentioned in Swissair 111 article

[GhostRider]

Just noticed that this website was referenced in this article:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070521/national/swissair_audio

Also, I believe the author's definition of the term "heavy" is erroneous.  As far as I know that craft would still hold the "heavy" label fully loaded or empty with fuel.   Oh well.

Just curious: was this site around when that incident happened?  Where there any recordings like the ones they released already around?

[KSYR-pjr]

Also, I believe the author's definition of the term "heavy" is erroneous.  As far as I know that craft would still hold the "heavy" label fully loaded or empty with fuel.

You are correct - the author got it wrong.  "Heavy" is an ATC label primarily used to categorize aircraft of a specified maximum take-off weight (*) or greater that require increased separation standards, as well as to provide an audible cue alerting other pilots that an even larger wake turbulence-generating aircraft is nearby.

(*) = capable of takeoff weights of more than 255,000 pounds, as well as the Boeing 757, which is below this takeoff weight but unique in its ability to throw off massive wake turbulence.

Just curious: was this site around when that incident happened?  Where there any recordings like the ones they released already around?

No, this site was not around back when that accident occurred.  From what I recall, the initial accident report only included the text of the the ATC/aircraft transcript.

I remember reading a discussion of the accident that had the pilots opted to land immediately rather than choose to dump fuel, they would most likely landed prior to the entertainment system-induced fire becoming incapacitating. 

[Pearson]

Saw it in my local paper this morning. Was suprised to see it, it kind of seemed out of place within the context of the story. At least they got it right, unlike their information regarding heavy aircraft. I suppose their definition is good enough for casual readers.

[Lexxx]

Here's a direct link to the audio. http://www3.thestar.com/cgi-bin/star_static.cgi?section=top&page=/Videos/070521_cp_swissair.html

You need Quicktime installed on your computer.

As a streamer of ATC audio I was happy to see that Nav Canada lost their fight that went all the way to our Supreme Court. It was ruled these types of transmission do not infringe on ones Privacy as dictated in one of our government Acts (Privacy Act)

We are in line with the US standard now. There had been some question up here if streaming and releasing this kind of audio was permitted.

Lexx
www.ykf.ca

[dave]

Great to hear, Lexxx...thanks for posting that.

Dave

[KSYR-pjr]

Here's a direct link to the audio. http://www3.thestar.com/cgi-bin/star_static.cgi?section=top&page=/Videos/070521_cp_swissair.html

You need Quicktime installed on your computer.

Or, for those of us who are QuickTime averse, load QuickTime Alternative.   

http://codecguide.com/about_qt.htm

Thanks for posting the audio link, BTW.