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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2005, 06:41:06 PM »

I do wish to, but when I attempted the NavCanada exam in Ottawa 2 years ago, I failed it.  I may have to upgrade my math and probably a few other visual skills too before I get in.  I am just hoping for FSS or Flight Service first, since I have a passion for following weather patterns and such.  ATC just helps me understand the communication and what the pilots are doing way up in the air.

Some of the new guys here at the FSS are really good or the opposite.  But, that's another story for another day.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2005, 03:41:09 PM »

Try the test again, several of the people that I know who are controllers had to write the test at least once.  There are strategies to writing the test and the main one is do not guess. Leave an answer blank if you arent 100% sure..they want accuracy rather than speed on that test and you get -1 for a wrong answer not zero like most tests in school but they dont tell you that. But thats another topic all together.  You sound like you want ATC not FSS from the questions you ask here.
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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2005, 08:37:38 PM »

Thanks!  Once I get my math skills up there again, I'l retry.  I read a Transport Canada letter I got in 1995, which told me the limit age is 30 and I'm 28.  I may be too late after age 30.  I've been re-reading some notes and noticing the formulas used.  I always try to picture myself reading some flight plan progress strips and trying to calculate times, etc, for non-radar environments and imagining occasional situations here in the Timmins airspace where 5 guys are holding on approach in IFR conditions.  It's just quick thinking, visual, audible, imagination and accuracy that I am trying to strive for.  There's much more, but this is good.  Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2005, 08:40:13 PM »

Those 2 new guys were on again.  They're probably still learning.  I won't point out the mistakes.  However, one of the new guys locked his mic once, to point out aircraft target distances and some voices in the background told him what to say and reminded him his mic was locked on.  I have to say that my heartburn kind of flares up when these guys get stumped on something.  huh
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2005, 01:11:26 PM »

There is no age limit to begin ATS training in Canada so don't worry.  Sometimes 'gags' are played on each other by one person (say data person) stepping on the foot pedal of the the radar controller who might not be watching at that moment so that their mike will become live without them realizing it..
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2005, 01:20:51 PM »

And there is no manditory retirement age either...I was just short of my 68th birthday when I fired Nav Can.

Binky...In more than 49 years in ATC, I don't ever recall anyone "playing a joke" on another controller while on the job...too much was at stake.  But there have been plenty of situations where a controller has inadvertantly opened a mike without opening his mouth..and ended up being very red-faced for the comments that were transmitted.

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« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2005, 02:18:15 PM »

Old Dog, I see you're from B.C.  One of the CZYZ controllers for the Timmins/North Bay sectors works here and is on the air right now as I type this.  He sais he's from the Okanogan I think.

Anyways, the new voices on the air from CZYZ are improving and beginning to sound like pro's.  

AND, here at the local airport, another new voice, but he actually sounds just like the regulars.  So, there's some new blood on the air  cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2005, 02:52:27 PM »

Jonathan...I'm living on the coast...a block and a half from the beach to be exact.  I'm waiting for the fog to lift so that I can fly to Boundary Bay from base at Langley...Annual time on the Grumman.

 Lots of new controllers in pretty well all areas but I'm glad that I'm out of it.
Far too much negativity and poor morale everywhere and that's no fun.

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