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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2006, 02:55:58 AM »

Ok since we now have 3 feeders of ZOB I was thinking of PIT's feed of ZOB EAST could be 132.125,135.175,125.425,121.075,119.725,and 133.075.

i saw this request so i programed these into the ZOB WPA scanner.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2006, 05:18:16 PM »

Thanks PIT and PHLAPPROACH for assisting in Eastern ZOB COVERAGE. I know I am sounding a bit whiney but would be nice to see HOPKINS to put back 120.075 and 134.775 back(havent heard mush traff on said freq's). But his feed would be so complete if he would kindly add 120.325 on his feed(extremely high traffic sector) which would cover super high from EASTERN OH TO THE ZAU boundary. Do I hear anyone else echoing my thought here HuhHuh?
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2006, 08:35:53 PM »

Okay, I spent some time going over my frequency lists and I'm not sure what the heck I was thinking when I posted the original list.  All the frequencies on that last are ones that I have actually heard traffic on.  The rest of the frequencies (on which I've never heard anything) are stored in another bank that I have turned off.

So, all those frequencies are active and being scanned on the zob_cle feed.

I also just added 120.325 and 127.675 per the suggestions given here.  I haven't heard anything on them, but I only listened for a few minutes.  They're in the mix now, anyway.

Anyway, I went through all my frequency sources and put names to all the frequencies -- different sources listed different frequencies by different names, so I listed both of them where applicable:

128.1500   Low Discrete   Paris   Hopkins
120.6000   Low Discrete   Mount Hope   Briggs
120.7750   Low Discrete   Chardon   Youngstown
127.9000   Low Discrete   Sandusky   Carleton
134.9000   Low Discrete   Mansfield   Mansfield
134.4750   Low Discrete   Moon Township   Elwood
125.8750   Low   Wayland   Crosby
132.4000   Low Discrete   Waterford   Dunkirk
132.2500   Low Discrete   Algonac   Dresden
132.4500   Low   Sandusky   Windsor
135.1000   Low   Findlay   Marion
134.6500   Low Discrete   Litchfield   Jackson
127.7000   Low Discrete   Flint   Flint
133.3750   High   Mansfield   Lorain
119.8750   High   Sandusky   Ravenna
119.3250   Ultra High   Sandusky   Bluffton
120.0750   Ultra High   Detroit North   Lake
134.7750   High   Carleton   Huson
133.5250   High?   Saginaw   Saginaw
135.7250   High Discrete   Litchfield   Detroit
126.5250   High    Algonac   Gamble
135.1750   Ultra High   Belmont   Allegheny
133.0750   Ultra High   Moon Township   Franklin
134.1250   High    Warren   Warren
132.9250   Ultra High   Warren   Warren
118.6250   High?      Dansville
120.6250   Ultra High   Holland   Niagara
135.7750   High    Holland   
119.7250   High    Warren   Warren
133.8750   High    Saginaw   
132.9500   Huh?      
125.4250   High   Belmont   
120.3250         
127.6750   High   Findlay   

My sources were:
ZOB maps posted to the forums earlier by "PHL Approach" @ http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php/topic,1901.0.html
http://www.milaircomms.com/artcc_zob.html
http://www.flightradio.com/states/ohio.htm
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&aid=2232

In all those sources, I could not find either 132.9500 or 120.3250.  120.325 was just given to me by NYARTCCFAN and Jetscan1 (any idea what name to apply to them)?  I don't know where the heck I got 132.95 from, I can't find it anywhere.  Maybe I just made it up?  Or typed it in wrong?

Thanks!
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2006, 09:29:59 PM »

Thank You so much sir !!!!!!!!!  Yes I am recieving on 120.325 and 127.675 at around 9pm. Just waiting for tomorrow to listen during the peak times. Again great add
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2006, 09:45:31 PM »

118.625 is High that lie's under the 120.625 Ultra High sector and 133.525 is a Super High Altitude that Lie's overhead of the 135.724 sector. 120.325 like I mentioned covers a vast expanse of area overhead the 133.375/119.325 sector corridor. I do know that those sites that list frequencies aren't really that up to date with their information. Someone mentioned her on the board that it takes alot of listening time to figure out the new frequencies and update yourself on your listening experiences. Great feed if I haven't said so since where I live at in the NYC area I hear tons of BOS/BDL/MHT/ALB/PVD,JFK/EWR/LGA,PHL,IAD,DCA,AND BWI INBOUNDS FROM CLEAR ACCROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE MIDWEST. I rate this as one of my top 3 feeds to listen to
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2006, 02:14:33 AM »

I apologize if you were trying to listen to the NE sectors Mike. I knocked the volume down last night and didnt even realize. It's now fixed.
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2006, 10:48:50 PM »

Here is my opinion on what should be listed on Hopkins' feed

Super High--132.925,120.075,120.325,133.075and 133.525
High--134.125,134.775,133.375,119.875,135.725,119.325,127.675, and 119.725
Low--124.325,125.875,126.725,120.775,127.9,132.25,132.45,134.9,120.6,128.15
         135.1,126.975,and 134.65

Again just my suggestion!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2006, 10:52:46 PM »

The Algonac feed when it come's back up should be 126.525,133.875,133.525, and 135.725. Someone in the NE AREA OF ZOB or PHLAPPROACH carry 119.375,128.025,120.625,118.625,127.475,125.2,and 132.4
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2006, 12:11:03 AM »

Im currently feeding some of DJ's ZNY request. I will look into putting those ZOB freqs in my scanner sometime in the future.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2006, 06:26:31 PM »

Anyone close enough to monitor ZNY 132.2.  I would like to hear that one.
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2006, 11:40:59 PM »

Here is my opinion on what should be listed on Hopkins' feed

Super High--132.925,120.075,120.325,133.075and 133.525
High--134.125,134.775,133.375,119.875,135.725,119.325,127.675, and 119.725
Low--124.325,125.875,126.725,120.775,127.9,132.25,132.45,134.9,120.6,128.15
         135.1,126.975,and 134.65

Again just my suggestion!!!!!!!!

I can look into adding 124.325 and 126.975 (both Wayland: Low).  Do you think I'd be able to pick up anything on 126.725?  It's labeled as "Bradford", and if that's Bradford, OH, it's pretty far away from Cleveland to pick up a "Low", don't you think?

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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2006, 12:46:46 AM »

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I can look into adding 124.325 and 126.975 (both Wayland: Low).  Do you think I'd be able to pick up anything on 126.725?  It's labeled as "Bradford", and if that's Bradford, OH, it's pretty far away from Cleveland to pick up a "Low", don't you think?

The center of these low sectors are about 150 nautical miles from CLE, even with a good external antenna and no obstructions you will only get partial coverage of this sector depending on how high the aircraft are. The last time I listened to your feed the reception range seemed very poor, like around 50% of what it could be (with a good antenna, no obstructions), so my guess is you would get nothing on these frequencies ? But the only way to know for sure is just try listening to those frequencies only and see if you hear anything.

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Here is my opinion on what should be listed on Hopkins' feed

Super High--132.925,120.075,120.325,133.075and 133.525
High--134.125,134.775,133.375,119.875,135.725,119.325,127.675, and 119.725
Low--124.325,125.875,126.725,120.775,127.9,132.25,132.45,134.9,120.6,128.15
         135.1,126.975,and 134.65

While it would be nice to be able to monitor all those frequencies suggested, IMO it doesn't make any sense trying to scan them all on one radio at the same time. First of all unless you have a scanner with some sort of hyper scanning speed, the begining of a lot of transmission will get clipped, and because it's such busy airspace each frequency just ends up blocking out the other ones. So what ends up happening when you try to scan close to 30 frequencies as suggested, yes you hear almost nonstop chatter, but you are probably only hearing maybe 10% on each individual frequency, making it very difficult to follow what is going on.

Personally I think it's much better trying to concentrate on a smaller area at a time. The problem with the CLE area is there is a lot to choose from. If it was me I'd pick one of the following configurations to scan at one time.

Configuration 1
Area IV (high)

120.325
119.325
127.675
133.375
119.875

Configuration 2
Area VII + Area V (high)

132.925
134.125
133.075
119.725

Configuration 3
Low altitude adjacent to CLE area

135.100
128.150
134.900
120.775
127.900
132.450
134.900

Configuration 4
Area III (high)

119.375
120.625
128.025
118.625

Configuration 5
Area II (high)

133.525
120.075
135.725
134.775

Ideally you would have 5 separate radios, but in this case with only one radio, a possible solution might be to rotate through the various configurations, changing it up every week or so. Just a suggestion. DJ



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