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« on: August 30, 2006, 01:14:03 PM »

It would appear that Dave hasn't yet added it to the feed list, but in addition to my KCLE feed (http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kcle.m3u), I'm also running a Cleveland Center feed available here:

http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/zob_cle

Enjoy!
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2006, 01:19:37 PM »

Link doesn't appear to work ?
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2006, 01:39:10 PM »

Hmm.. I just clicked on it and it worked.  Maybe it's the DNS issues that Dave posted in another thread?  You can try this link too:
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/zob_cle.m3u
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2006, 01:55:04 PM »

That link works. What frequencies are you scanning ?
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2006, 05:06:34 PM »

It would appear that Dave hasn't yet added it to the feed list, but in addition to my KCLE feed (http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/kcle.m3u), I'm also running a Cleveland Center feed available here:

http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/zob_cle

Enjoy!

Wow! Thanks for this!
Tom
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2006, 09:02:04 PM »

Yes as DJ is asking  frequencies PRETTY PLEASE!!!!!! smiley grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2006, 01:19:30 AM »

Sure thing.  Perhaps this takes some of the fun out of it, but I just put *all* the non-military CLE center frequencies into the scanner.  I spent some time monitoring them and divided them up into ones where I heard traffic and ones where I never heard anything (but they're all still programmed in):

"Active" frequencies:
128.1500
120.6000
120.7750
127.9000
134.9000
134.4750
125.8750
132.4000
132.2500
132.4500
135.1000
134.6500
127.7000
133.3750
119.8750
119.3250
120.0750
134.7750
133.5250

"Quiet" frequencies (from my location, anyway):
135.7250
126.5250
135.1750
133.0750
134.1250
132.9250
118.6250
120.6250
135.7750
119.7250
133.8750
132.9500
125.4250

It's possible that something will come in on one of the "quiet" frequencies from time to time, depending on the weather, time of day, etc.  The scanner is physically located in the Cleveland area.

I didn't put any names on them because different frequency sources sometimes seem to give the same frequency two different names.  I plan to take some time this weekend and figure that whole inconsistency out.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2006, 11:50:47 AM »

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I plan to take some time this weekend and figure that whole inconsistency out.

On your "Quiet" list 132.950 and 135.775 are no longer used. Other frequencies you don't have listed, that you should be able to hear traffic on, are 120.325 and 127.675, there are a few other new ones but you'll never get them with your current reception range. I'm guessing you are using an indoor antenna ? From what I've heard your reception range is probably close to 50% of what it could be, around 100 nautical miles at typical cruise altitudes (with a good antenna you can pull in around 200 nautical miles), that's why you are not hearing much on your list of quiet frequencies. Do you have a copy of the Cleveland sector maps ? Someone posted them here awhile ago, they really help when you are trying to figure out what's what. I can post them here if someone can remind me how to do that with this forum format ? DJ
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2006, 12:38:34 PM »

I do know definetly you will be able to get no problem as Jetscan said is 120.325 this covers super high which is definetly in my opinion readable in your area due to altitude.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2006, 03:23:47 PM »

http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php/topic,1901.0.html
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2006, 01:59:04 PM »

I could have sworn I saw a request for ZOB frequencies 120.62, 128.02, 118.62 and 119.37 to be up. You might be in luck because I thought there was no way I would pick those guys up. But for the most part alot of them are coming in more clear than ZDC traffic right next to me.

Ok, DJ and Mike you might want to take a listen to my feed. Let me know how it is.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2006, 02:40:51 PM »

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Ok, DJ and Mike you might want to take a listen to my feed. Let me know how it is.

Had a quick listen with the radar (Flight Explorer) up. Your reception range towards the north/northwest is exceptional. From what I've seen and heard you are receiving traffic right out to the theoretical VHF line of sight maximum distance. As an example, heard a Northwest A320 enroute from BOS-MSP checking on at FL360 coming in 4/4 that at the time was just north of the Syracuse VOR, about 220 nautical miles from PHL. The only problem is given your distance you are only picking up traffic in the far eastern/southeastern portion of these Cleveland sectors, everthing in the western half is out of range.

I'm busy for the next few days, but late next week if you're up for it, it would be interesting to check out some other sector/frequency configurations. Sounds like you would have great reception and full coverage of the New York high sectors to the north.

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2006, 03:13:23 PM »

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Ok, DJ and Mike you might want to take a listen to my feed. Let me know how it is.

I'm busy for the next few days, but late next week if you're up for it, it would be interesting to check out some other sector/frequency configurations. Sounds like you would have great reception and full coverage of the New York high sectors to the north.

DJ 

Yea I thought I heard the western stuff coming in scratchy. But last night I heard CPA889 JFK-YVR clear as anything on one of those frequencies. But yea, Im up for scanning some other stuff. Not using my scanner for anything else so let me know.
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« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2006, 03:36:03 PM »

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But last night I heard CPA889 JFK-YVR clear as anything on one of those frequencies. But yea, Im up for scanning some other stuff. Not using my scanner for anything else so let me know.

You're getting traffic out of the New York airports loud and clear on the handoff. From what I can tell New York seems to hand them off to Cleveland about 40-50nm before the FIR boundary. I'll be back Thursday night, then will have some time, talk to you again then, thanks. DJ
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2006, 03:51:02 PM »

Wow cant believe the range you are recieving Ed!!!!!!!! Sounds good really good. My usual tracker I use along with the feeds is FLIGHTAWARE by the way.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2006, 02:55:58 AM »

Ok since we now have 3 feeders of ZOB I was thinking of PIT's feed of ZOB EAST could be 132.125,135.175,125.425,121.075,119.725,and 133.075.

i saw this request so i programed these into the ZOB WPA scanner.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2006, 05:18:16 PM »

Thanks PIT and PHLAPPROACH for assisting in Eastern ZOB COVERAGE. I know I am sounding a bit whiney but would be nice to see HOPKINS to put back 120.075 and 134.775 back(havent heard mush traff on said freq's). But his feed would be so complete if he would kindly add 120.325 on his feed(extremely high traffic sector) which would cover super high from EASTERN OH TO THE ZAU boundary. Do I hear anyone else echoing my thought here HuhHuh?
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« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2006, 08:35:53 PM »

Okay, I spent some time going over my frequency lists and I'm not sure what the heck I was thinking when I posted the original list.  All the frequencies on that last are ones that I have actually heard traffic on.  The rest of the frequencies (on which I've never heard anything) are stored in another bank that I have turned off.

So, all those frequencies are active and being scanned on the zob_cle feed.

I also just added 120.325 and 127.675 per the suggestions given here.  I haven't heard anything on them, but I only listened for a few minutes.  They're in the mix now, anyway.

Anyway, I went through all my frequency sources and put names to all the frequencies -- different sources listed different frequencies by different names, so I listed both of them where applicable:

128.1500   Low Discrete   Paris   Hopkins
120.6000   Low Discrete   Mount Hope   Briggs
120.7750   Low Discrete   Chardon   Youngstown
127.9000   Low Discrete   Sandusky   Carleton
134.9000   Low Discrete   Mansfield   Mansfield
134.4750   Low Discrete   Moon Township   Elwood
125.8750   Low   Wayland   Crosby
132.4000   Low Discrete   Waterford   Dunkirk
132.2500   Low Discrete   Algonac   Dresden
132.4500   Low   Sandusky   Windsor
135.1000   Low   Findlay   Marion
134.6500   Low Discrete   Litchfield   Jackson
127.7000   Low Discrete   Flint   Flint
133.3750   High   Mansfield   Lorain
119.8750   High   Sandusky   Ravenna
119.3250   Ultra High   Sandusky   Bluffton
120.0750   Ultra High   Detroit North   Lake
134.7750   High   Carleton   Huson
133.5250   High?   Saginaw   Saginaw
135.7250   High Discrete   Litchfield   Detroit
126.5250   High    Algonac   Gamble
135.1750   Ultra High   Belmont   Allegheny
133.0750   Ultra High   Moon Township   Franklin
134.1250   High    Warren   Warren
132.9250   Ultra High   Warren   Warren
118.6250   High?      Dansville
120.6250   Ultra High   Holland   Niagara
135.7750   High    Holland   
119.7250   High    Warren   Warren
133.8750   High    Saginaw   
132.9500   Huh?      
125.4250   High   Belmont   
120.3250         
127.6750   High   Findlay   

My sources were:
ZOB maps posted to the forums earlier by "PHL Approach" @ http://www.liveatc.net/forums/index.php/topic,1901.0.html
http://www.milaircomms.com/artcc_zob.html
http://www.flightradio.com/states/ohio.htm
http://www.radioreference.com/modules.php?name=RR&aid=2232

In all those sources, I could not find either 132.9500 or 120.3250.  120.325 was just given to me by NYARTCCFAN and Jetscan1 (any idea what name to apply to them)?  I don't know where the heck I got 132.95 from, I can't find it anywhere.  Maybe I just made it up?  Or typed it in wrong?

Thanks!
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« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2006, 09:29:59 PM »

Thank You so much sir !!!!!!!!!  Yes I am recieving on 120.325 and 127.675 at around 9pm. Just waiting for tomorrow to listen during the peak times. Again great add
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2006, 09:45:31 PM »

118.625 is High that lie's under the 120.625 Ultra High sector and 133.525 is a Super High Altitude that Lie's overhead of the 135.724 sector. 120.325 like I mentioned covers a vast expanse of area overhead the 133.375/119.325 sector corridor. I do know that those sites that list frequencies aren't really that up to date with their information. Someone mentioned her on the board that it takes alot of listening time to figure out the new frequencies and update yourself on your listening experiences. Great feed if I haven't said so since where I live at in the NYC area I hear tons of BOS/BDL/MHT/ALB/PVD,JFK/EWR/LGA,PHL,IAD,DCA,AND BWI INBOUNDS FROM CLEAR ACCROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE MIDWEST. I rate this as one of my top 3 feeds to listen to
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2006, 02:14:33 AM »

I apologize if you were trying to listen to the NE sectors Mike. I knocked the volume down last night and didnt even realize. It's now fixed.
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2006, 10:48:50 PM »

Here is my opinion on what should be listed on Hopkins' feed

Super High--132.925,120.075,120.325,133.075and 133.525
High--134.125,134.775,133.375,119.875,135.725,119.325,127.675, and 119.725
Low--124.325,125.875,126.725,120.775,127.9,132.25,132.45,134.9,120.6,128.15
         135.1,126.975,and 134.65

Again just my suggestion!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2006, 10:52:46 PM »

The Algonac feed when it come's back up should be 126.525,133.875,133.525, and 135.725. Someone in the NE AREA OF ZOB or PHLAPPROACH carry 119.375,128.025,120.625,118.625,127.475,125.2,and 132.4
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« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2006, 12:11:03 AM »

Im currently feeding some of DJ's ZNY request. I will look into putting those ZOB freqs in my scanner sometime in the future.
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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2006, 06:26:31 PM »

Anyone close enough to monitor ZNY 132.2.  I would like to hear that one.
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