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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2013, 01:25:09 PM »

I'm glad to help. It sounds like the controllers are coming in much clearer, maybe thanks to the stub filter.
Unfortunately, BLM was just sold to someone who seems to be a pompous jerk, and wants to change it into a Teterboro-type airport. No more skydiving, no more banner planes. He wants to cater to "$50 million airplanes, not $50,000 airplanes." He says "It's hard to convince owners of $30 million jets to land at an airport when you need to worry about people falling from the sky." Sorry, just had to complain about that. Here's an article, if anyone is interested. http://wall.patch.com/groups/business-news/p/end-of-an-era-monmouth-executive-airport-sold
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2013, 05:01:17 PM »

You're welcome  cool

BTW, Can you get 133.5 ground side from there?
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KJFK ARINC
KHPN ATIS
(KJFK) NY DEP Liberty East
HF CAR-A  3455/5550/6577/8846/11396
HF ARINC LDOC  6640/8933
HF NY VOLMET  6604

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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2013, 06:15:46 PM »

Nice setup John!  I'm actually a little surprised that you can get the ground side of both 118.975 and 125.325.  If I'm not mistaken, the transmitter sites for these two are at different locations.  But I guess the two sites are close enough together so you can hear both.  Either way, makes for great listening!

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ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #1
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #2
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #3
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #4
ZBW Boston Center (CLIPR32/HTO31)
ZBW Boston Center (DXR19/SOUTHIE49)
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2013, 06:38:54 PM »

The ground side was difficult to get, but after adding the amp with FM filter, and switching over to the Pro-2006, I was finally able to get them clear enough to be understandable. Is there some way to find where the transmitters are located? From what I understand, one is in Colts Neck, which is maybe 25 miles at most from where I live.
I missed the question about 133.5, but I'll see what I get. What is that frequency for?
Anyway, I'll put 133.5 on for a bit and see what I get.

EDIT: Sounds like I'm getting ground and the aircraft. I'll see if Dave wants to add it to the list. Until I hear back, I'll leave 133.5 in the scan.
Is there a reason you wanted me to try 133.5? I notice there are already 2 feeds from the NY area with that freq. Are they missing the ground side or something?
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2013, 08:00:15 PM »

We've been trying to get the ground side of that for over a year, it comes out of Barnegat. That is the Center frequency the arriving oceanic flights from the south/southeast check in on when they switch from HF (shortwave) to VHF, so now we would have complete coverage of Caribbean flights both departing and arriving on HF and VHF.
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KJFK ARINC
KHPN ATIS
(KJFK) NY DEP Liberty East
HF CAR-A  3455/5550/6577/8846/11396
HF ARINC LDOC  6640/8933
HF NY VOLMET  6604

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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2013, 08:12:12 PM »

Now that you mention it, I think I remember Dave asking if I could get that back when I had my portable scanner set up. With the portable scanner, I couldn't get ground. It sounds like now that I have the Pro-2006 and amplifier, ground is coming in.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2013, 09:44:44 PM »

Hey John, yes that frequency is on other feeds. I have it on one of mine but you can't hear the ground side at all. Another guy has it on his feed but the ground side just barely breaks squelch. But your reception of 133.5 seems to be the best thus far. Many of the flights you hear on this frequency are departing/arriving JFK. These flights generally start their decent on 133.5 and get handed off to ZNY 128.3 on their way down. It's a great frequency!

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ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #2
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #3
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #4
ZBW Boston Center (CLIPR32/HTO31)
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2013, 09:47:35 PM »

I'm listening to your feed now...I can hear the beeps from your pro 2006. I know that sound well...i have a 2006 too. You must be playing around with the radio.

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ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #2
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #3
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #4
ZBW Boston Center (CLIPR32/HTO31)
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2013, 10:25:14 PM »

When they first check in 50 miles south of RESQU, ROLLE, SQUAD, ZIBUT, etc., they are around 250-280 miles out from Lakewood.
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KJFK ARINC
KHPN ATIS
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HF CAR-A  3455/5550/6577/8846/11396
HF ARINC LDOC  6640/8933
HF NY VOLMET  6604

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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2013, 10:34:27 PM »

I'm listening to your feed now...I can hear the beeps from your pro 2006. I know that sound well...i have a 2006 too. You must be playing around with the radio.

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You caught me... I've been trying to fine tune the squelch. As soon as it stops on a station, I hit the scan button and turn the knob just a tiny bit. I've noticed there is a very fine line between static and the controllers dropping out.
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2013, 12:44:17 AM »

You are getting 133.5 very nicely, getting all the hand-offs to ARINC 129.9 on the outbound side, have not yet heard any arrivals at check-in (which would be maximum range) yet, but there aren't any inbound right now anyway. All those guys going to RESQU and SQUAD that you hear handed off to 129.9 are outbound and leaving radar coverage. To hear them after that you go here: http://www.liveatc.net/play/kjfk_arinc.pls and after that you would listen to them on HF here: http://www.liveatc.net/play/hf_car_ct.pls  On the inbound they transition directly from HF to 133.5

If it is possible to double up on the stereo sound disks (for three or four total feeds) I'll give you a radio for a dedicated 133.5 feed, but I'm not sure with that antenna and based upon what I have heard so far that you've got quite enough signal on the weak ground stations to sacrifice another 3 dB signal loss with a three or four way splitter. Probably need an antenna upgrade or a second one in the form of a 2 or 3 element beam aimed SE. 133.5 is definitely worth the dedicated feed.

If I get Ron on 129.4 (still looking for a good time slot for that, Ron) and you on 133.5 I think I will finally be able to die a satisfied man.
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KHPN ATIS
(KJFK) NY DEP Liberty East
HF CAR-A  3455/5550/6577/8846/11396
HF ARINC LDOC  6640/8933
HF NY VOLMET  6604

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2013, 02:24:12 AM »

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133.5 is definitely worth the dedicated feed.

I second that, I'll donate funds to help out with another radio. I believe they also cross-couple 133.500 with 125.925 at certain times, so you would be able to hear all the transmissions on 125.925 as well when they have them linked up. Not sure how often they do that ? But we should be able to find out now. Thanks for providing the feed !

For your reference I attached a chart below that shows the high altitude sectors in this area.
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2013, 09:55:31 AM »

Just listening this morning around 09:30-10:00 EST and I see the radio is getting hung up on the squelch for long periods of time. The frequency it's getting stuck on must be one of the less busy ones because I have not heard anything on it when it's stopped. I'm wondering if it would make more sense to just keep the 3 ZNY frequencies on this radio and switch all the other stuff over to the other radio ?
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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2013, 10:26:42 AM »

Great to have 133.5 covered in NJ guys... One freq we are missing in the mix is 128.3. It's also out of Barnegat...it's the low level sector ZNY sector that's the handoff inbound and outbound for Carib flights to and from JFK & EWR between N90 and 133.5. 133.5 is also being currently heard on the Hyannis MA feed since ZNY simulcasts 99% of the time 133.5 and 125.92. 125.92 xmits out of cape cod. They are sep sectors but are rarely split. So...we also have 133.5 covered on the ground side there. All that said, I'm glad we have another on the ground side, but would like to see 128.3 covered as well...We aren't catching the ground side of that anywhere...this feed is our only hope. You should be able to get it...if you are getting 133.5.

My suggestion...maybe find another radio...put 133.5 & 128.3 on one and 125.32. &118.97 on the other. All of these freqs get vey busy esp during bad wx and would be a lot on one scan...tough to follow. My vote would be to get 128.3 in there somewhere...

Thoughts?
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ZBW Boston Center (ART08/UCA09)
KEWR Twr/Gnd/Cl Dl
N90-EWR (Dep/ARD/North/MUGZY)
N90-LGA (EMPYR)
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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2013, 11:04:36 AM »

I have to agree with JetScan, I'm listening right now and your feed has been stuck on a frequency for the past 15 minutes; nothing but background noise.

I have heard 133.5 simulcasting on 125.925 many times in the past on one of the two feeds that have it, just not sure which one now.  After listening a little bit on the two feeds that have 125.925, it looks like you can just hear the aircraft on the KHYA Twr/Cape App/ZBW/ZNY feed and nothing at all on 125.925 on the ZBW/ZNY Atlantic Sectors + Military feed.

If I get Ron on 129.4 (still looking for a good time slot for that, Ron)

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ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #2
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #3
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #4
ZBW Boston Center (CLIPR32/HTO31)
ZBW Boston Center (DXR19/SOUTHIE49)
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