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JetScan1
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« on: March 13, 2014, 02:34:21 PM »

Just an FYI,

I was listening to a Toronto Center high altitude sector (overhead Toronto) yesterday and a pilot heading overseas asked if they were using CPDLC yet. The controller replied that they start training for it next week and will be using it in the near future. I think this is the last Center in Canada to get it operational ?

Definately making it harder to enjoy the hobby when more and more ATC voice traffic is going datalink. Now we just need to find some way to decode it ?

The American's seem way behind Canada and Europe when it comes to domestic CPDLC use, so I guess we have a few years left of voice coms in the US. Just wondering if anyone in Europe has noticed a big difference since they started using it over there ?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2014, 01:47:40 PM »

Just an FYI,

I was listening to a Toronto Center high altitude sector (overhead Toronto) yesterday and a pilot heading overseas asked if they were using CPDLC yet. The controller replied that they start training for it next week and will be using it in the near future. I think this is the last Center in Canada to get it operational ?

Definately making it harder to enjoy the hobby when more and more ATC voice traffic is going datalink. Now we just need to find some way to decode it ?

The American's seem way behind Canada and Europe when it comes to domestic CPDLC use, so I guess we have a few years left of voice coms in the US. Just wondering if anyone in Europe has noticed a big difference since they started using it over there ?

that's interesting.. a US carrier was already using CPDLC, especially during an incident where they were flying EGLL-KJFK, when a passenger had a heart attack, and had to divert to BIKF. They used satcom and CPDLC for their communications; CPDLC was to Gander Radio, which is in Canada.

Here's the article. It's a great read.

http://www.flyingmag.com/pilots-places/pilots-adventures-more/jumpseat-iceland-checked

BL.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2014, 05:43:01 PM »

I think he meant using CPDLC over domestic US airspace
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2014, 06:42:38 PM »

Interesting article. Yes Gander and Shanwick have been using CPDLC in Atlantic oceanic airspace for well over 10 years now. Most US carriers aircraft that fly those routes have been equipped with it for years as well.

It's just recently, around the last 5 years, that it has started being used in Canadian domestic airspace. With Toronto on line soon I believe that it will then cover all Canadian domestic airspace.

Although so far I have only heard it being used by international flights on routes over the Atlantic and Pacific, mostly because these are the aircraft types that are equipped with it. I have not heard a domestic flight, such as an Air Canada CPDLC equipped (FANS) aircraft using it on say a Toronto to Vancouver flight yet. Maybe they are, I just haven't heard one yet ?

I know in the US they have been doing tests with a system called the Thales Data Communications Automation Platform (DTAP) with Fed Ex and UPS in Memphis and Louisville and soon with United in Newark, but so far this only seems to be used on the ground for clearance delivery functions.

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/ain-air-transport-perspective/2013-02-11/fedex-begins-data-communications-flights-memphis
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 09:53:12 AM »


Great article, thanks for sharing!

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