Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
October 20, 2014, 05:14:42 PM
Home Help Login Register      
News: NEW Follow LiveATC updates on Twitter and Facebook


+  LiveATC Discussion Forums
|-+  Air Traffic Monitoring
| |-+  Listener Forum (Moderators: dave, RonR)
| | |-+  Oakland International Airport Changes Runway Numbers
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: Oakland International Airport Changes Runway Numbers  (Read 17157 times)
Squawk 7700
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 467



WWW
« on: October 21, 2013, 11:24:34 AM »

Those listening to KOAK may hear something unusual these days?
The old familiar South Field Runway 29 has been re-numbered to Runway 30.
North Field Runways 27L/R has been re-numbered as well to 28L/R
It's going to take some getting used to!
http://ww1.jeppesen.com/documents/aviation/notices-alerts/chart-alert/KOAK_10-9_1311_eChart_Alert.pdf
Logged

Feeder:
KHWD Ground/Tower
KOAK Del/Gnd/Twr
KSFO NORCAL App Rwy 28L/R
KSFO Tower/Ground
NORCAL Approach (KOAK)
NORCAL Departure (KSFO/KOAK)
KSJC NORCAL Approach #2
ZOA Oakland Center (35/40/41)


RJTT App/Dep
RJTT Tokyo Control
RJTT Twr/TCA
RonR
Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 706



« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2013, 09:14:00 AM »

And here's a newspaper article explaining the reason for the change...

http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_24613702/earths-magnetic-shift-causes-first-change-runway-numbers?source=rss
Logged

Feed Provider:
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #1
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #2
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #3
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #4
ZBW Boston Center (CLIPR32/HTO31)
ZBW Boston Center (DXR19/SOUTHIE49)
Squawk 7700
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 467



WWW
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2013, 11:08:17 AM »

Thanks Ron! This is an interesting article that explains the change. Great find! grin
Ken
Logged

Feeder:
KHWD Ground/Tower
KOAK Del/Gnd/Twr
KSFO NORCAL App Rwy 28L/R
KSFO Tower/Ground
NORCAL Approach (KOAK)
NORCAL Departure (KSFO/KOAK)
KSJC NORCAL Approach #2
ZOA Oakland Center (35/40/41)


RJTT App/Dep
RJTT Tokyo Control
RJTT Twr/TCA
RonR
Moderator
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 706



« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2013, 11:55:14 AM »

No problem Ken  wink

To be honest, I never even thought about the shifting of the Earth's magnetic field is being a reason for the change, but it does seem to make sense...

I hope you had a good Turkey Day!

Ron
Logged

Feed Provider:
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #1
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #2
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #3
ZBW/ZNY/ZDC (JFK Area) #4
ZBW Boston Center (CLIPR32/HTO31)
ZBW Boston Center (DXR19/SOUTHIE49)
Flyingnut
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 177


« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2013, 12:47:04 PM »

I like this sentence, "Pilots use the numbers to navigate, so it's critical that they be accurate."  I really do not think the actual runway numbers are "critical." Pilots care about the actual degrees, not the number designation.

For example at KORD; 9R, 9L, 10L, 10C are 93.2, 93.2, 93.1, 93.0 respectively. I sure the when 10R finally opens in a year or so, it will also be 93.1 or 93.0. All four and eventually all five runways are within two-tenths of a degree, but have number designations separated by ten degrees.
Logged

Marty
PPL - Instrument Rating
8 NW of KORD
tyketto
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 913


« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2013, 01:54:47 PM »


Looks like KOAK isn't the only casualty of this. Numbers are changing at Orange County (KSNA) as well. They also explain it well:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/airport-537855-runway-degrees.html

Expect some charts and arrivals to change.

BL.
Logged
swa4678
Full Member
***
Online Online

Posts: 122


« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2013, 11:43:55 AM »

Pilots care about the actual degrees, not the number designation.
Well, it does serve as a quick sanity check. Say you don't have some fancy FMS  with aurals like "Approaching runway two eight". Say you didn't have your morning cup of coffee, either.

If two (or more!) intersecting runways' thresholds are near each other, a quick look at your compass or the numbers painted on the runway will help confirm you've lined up for the runway for which you just received takeoff/landing clearance.
Logged
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!