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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2006, 11:10:04 AM »

Sorry but that's not true. I work that traffic everyday. FV2 is only open when we run the SAPR2 operation. When SA is busy we open the woodstown sector and they run the 35 traffic. As far as who owns 70/80 over brand, SD owns it on the 9's and SH owns it on the 27's. CB.
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2006, 01:45:58 PM »

So if S.Arrival isn't busy, do they work the woodstown sector as well?  Do they also work the FV2 sector or does FV1 get that?
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2006, 03:31:46 PM »

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Sorry but that's not true. I work that traffic everyday. FV2 is only open when we run the SAPR2 operation. When SA is busy we open the woodstown sector and they run the 35 traffic. As far as who owns 70/80 over brand, SD owns it on the 9's and SH owns it on the 27's. CB.


Sure use to be true. Rick opened it one night for 35. I've seen it open many other days when the SAPR2 wasn't in operation. Heard Laura on FV2 a few times when only running 35.

But truly, how often is SH ever open.... Not much. So it's ok to assume SD owns it while on west operations. I've heard it open one time in the last year. It was a bit of a waste when that sector was created a couple of years ago.
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2006, 03:35:36 PM »

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So if S.Arrival isn't busy, do they work the woodstown sector as well?  Do they also work the FV2 sector or does FV1 get that?


As I said before, yes when SA is not busy. SA will combine up to operate 35 along while feeding DPNT4/VCN8 Arrivals. When there is a really big lull, NA and SA will split the final.
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2006, 04:31:22 PM »

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As I said before, yes when SA is not busy. SA will combine up to operate 35 along while feeding DPNT4/VCN8 Arrivals. When there is a really big lull, NA and SA will split the final.


Yeah my first question was really to set up my second question.  Phlcontroller said that fv2 is only open during sapr2.  So when you aren't doing sapr2 and there isn't a big lull , what happens to the fv2 sector?
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2006, 05:31:52 PM »

www.zmpartcc.org/images/132.675-FV2-POSITION.jpg

www.zmpartcc.org/images/127.35-OOD-POSITION.jpg

My bad, I never did realize that the FV2 position was opened when the original SAPR operation first started being used. I clearly see the "position outline" now is for OOD to run 35 as shown above. I never really studied the position outlines as much as the video maps and general SOP. For the most part though, 132.67 almost always seems to be used to run the 35 final. Im sure it's a bit nicer to work a intersecting final next to the other final controller rather than across the room where OOD is.
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