Pittsburgh ILS 10 LEFT Chart...29 years ago

[digger]

can you tell me why they dont land people on 28R after 10pm?? my guess is that all the "rich" people of sewlickey got P.O. beacuse of the noise.

My guess would be that it's not the Sewickly people, but parts of Moon Twp. that are the reason for that. Some years ago, the county actually bought a number of homes that were situated beneath the approach. Some were retrofitted with double pane windows, inusulated, and air conditioned, so that the occupants would never have to have open windows to let the noise in. Some others were just torn down period. I believe still other property owners were paid some amount of cash, as compensation for the close proximity of the approach, and the accompanying noise. Heck, I'd have paid the county to live there!  

If I'm not mistaken, you'll also never hear a jet departing from 14.

Thanks for the charts L-1011. Thery're very interesting.

[PIT]

No, sometimes the Cargo heavies take off there but only props can land on taht  runway.

ther has  been many request for that runways now, one pilot asked  for the runway and the controller said not, he then said something like after we talk to county we will, im looking for the recording, ill have something soon

[PIT]

I was  once told  that in 2000 before  sept 11 the airport was planin on expandin in the upcomming  years and that these were the runways that they were going to add. but we all know what  happened. you can also see that  the C and, D wing

[PIT]

Here is the clip that i was talking  about earlier.

http://www.liveatc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7708#7708

[davolijj]

Alos Jim, can you tell me why they dont land people  on 28R after 10pm?? my guess is that all the "rich" people of sewlickey got P.O. beacuse of the noise. it makes  me sad because 28R  is the runway that goes directly over my house and i like to hear the jets.   also tell leveryone at PIT that i said hi a and that i love to hear them everyday.

They land people on 28R after 10pm, just not jets, and yes it's because of noise abatement procedures.  I'm not sure if it's because of the people in Sewickley though or Moon but there are residential areas of Moon close to the 28R final.  10L however is another story....that's their primary landing runway when on an East flow.  Here's the 7110.65 explaination for Noise abatement:

3-5-1. SELECTION

a. Except where a "runway use" program is in effect, use the runway most nearly aligned with the wind when 5 knots or more or the "calm wind" runway when less than 5 knots (set tetrahedron accordingly) unless use of another runway:

NOTE-
1. If a pilot prefers to use a runway different from that specified, the pilot is expected to advise ATC.

2. At airports where a "runway use" program is established, ATC will assign runways deemed to have the least noise impact. If in the interest of safety a runway different from that specified is preferred, the pilot is expected to advise ATC accordingly. ATC will honor such requests and advise pilots when the requested runway is noise sensitive.
 

I'll tell the guys at PIT your sentiments but believe me, they know.  Also they asked me to thank you (the PIT feeder) for improving the reception of the feed....it sounds great lately.

If I'm not mistaken, you'll also never hear a jet departing from 14

I think you meant 32 because jets and props do depart from 14 on an East flow.  There are no taxiways that go all the way to the approach end of 32 so aircraft would have to back-taxi to it.  It was never meant as a departure runway.

[PIT]

i hope  that my antenna  is  sitll up there

[digger]

I think you meant 32 because jets and props do depart from 14 on an East flow. There are no taxiways that go all the way to the approach end of 32 so aircraft would have to back-taxi to it. It was never meant as a departure runway.

Yeah. I was hoping to correct myself before somebody else got to.

[L-1011]

Thought you might like this Davolijj. It's from a 1977 Airport Directory book. Looks like Beaver Airport was G01 before it was BVI.

I'll be putting on audio files from the late 70's / early 80's (including some of the "adios" guy) of PIT tower/approach/departure shortly. As soon as I figure out how to do it.

[davolijj]

Thought you might like this Davolijj. It's from a 1977 Airport Directory book. Looks like Beaver Airport was G01 before it was BVI.

Very nice L-1011....thanks, this one's going in the facility's scrapbook.  And I look forward to hearing those audio files.  BTW, if you're trying to convert them from cassette I suggest Audacity and connecting the cassette player to your line-in with an 1/8" miniplug cable.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/beta_windows

Don't forget the Lame MP3 encoder.
I can't wait to hear those tapes.

[L-1011]

Here is ILS approach chart for 28 Left from 1977.

I'll be putting up audio cassette files from the late 70's and early 80's of the PIT airport........as soon as I can find where I put them.