Author Topic: Watch those headings and altitudes  (Read 22012 times)

drfinal

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Re: Watch those headings and altitudes
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2008, 07:53:27 PM »
...we're cro-bar equipped today...



I'm a little slow.  I don't get it?   I've never heard that one before.

I assume drFinal was making a reference to the same "crow bar" style of flying that the controller uses in this video: (at about 1:45)



YES YES!!!  Cro-bar, slam dunk, shoe horn--it's all the same!!! Mostly for Lendy arrivals they come down good and we keep them within 10 miles of JFK!! The guy on the youtube is retired now--never thought I'd hear that voice again!! I remember him discussing that with the pilot--I was working next to him.
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Offline cessna157

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Re: Watch those headings and altitudes
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2008, 08:12:40 PM »
Steep approaches can be fun, but only when we know they're coming.  JFK can get the slam dump sometimes from overhead down to the 4s or GPS13s, from my experiences.  If you ever have trouble with someone descending, just tell them how long their final is going to be and they'll hurry on down.

CVG and AUS stand out for giving steep approaches consistently.  We always laugh when flying into ATL and approach advises "expect short approach."  For us, short approach would be just that, very short, maybe within 5 miles.  But a "short approach" at ATL is usually a 12 mile final instead of 20.  I guess its all relative.

drfinal

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Re: Watch those headings and altitudes
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2008, 08:41:03 PM »
If you ever have trouble with someone descending, just tell them how long their final is going to be and they'll hurry on down.



Oh I always butter you guys up--

Whenever anyone asks their sequence I don't care where they are I always say--"Number 1 with a good rate down."

4 out of 5 pilots give it to me. The 5th pilot ends up at the end of the line (but only if I'm not going to screw myself putting him there.) Sometimes a lesson ain't worth the world of hurt it's going to cost.