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« on: July 08, 2005, 11:00:51 PM »

What is the best education pathway to become an ATC?  This year will be my senior year in HS.  So any help will be wonderful.  Thanks...Eric
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2005, 11:06:33 PM »

Sorry did not meen to post in this folder may be site admin ( Dave) can delete this post or can move it over to other folder.  Very sorry...Eric
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2005, 11:10:54 PM »

The ATC-CTI program is an excellent way to go.  Instead of me sumarizing what has already been written plase visit the following website:

http://www.atccti.com/

Thanks,
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2005, 11:21:52 AM »

I applied initially for a position as Flight Service Specialist, since it primarly handles local airport advisory, weather and navaid briefing services.  The test I wrote was 215$ with a Canadian Money Order at Ottawa Ontario.   You have to visit NavCanada's Flight planning website and follow the links to enroll.  Keep in mind you really have to have a good memory, good visual and decision making skills, good written and verbal vocabulary.  And for the sake of things, spice up your math skills.  The process involves the initial registration, the test, if you pass it you move on to the interview and a lot of work after that.  I hope this helps. --Jon
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2005, 05:29:20 AM »

Here in eire its a different story. The IAA (www.iaa.ie) do a student controller programme in Shannon- they make it hard and there is a high failure rate. Its a pity as i want to do it myself.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2005, 06:40:39 AM »

Enjoy that pity.  I got interested in it during my teen years when I used to monitor local authorities and had an in-depth interest in the weather.  I was invited to the local airport for the annual Young Eagles flying program, went back for 2 tours to the flight service station and monitored the airport only when there was bad weather.  Since I liked it, I spent a year getting used to hearing the lingos and procedures.  The interesting part of it is you must use your imagination, make rapid decisions and calculate time and distance effectively.    Don't hesitate to try!
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2005, 10:27:40 AM »

I will try it yes- but do something else before hand!
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2005, 02:28:54 PM »

I was looking at the Beaver run program if anyone has any experience with them and their area.  I would like to be with FAA so would I have to do the Beaver run program than go to Oklahoma and go through the FAA training program there?  All help is appreciated. thanks Eric
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2005, 04:31:32 PM »

That's where I'll be going, I assume you mean CCBC. Community College of Beaver County. Joe (CMHAmericaWest) from the forum attends CCBC for an ATC Major, if you can get a hold of him, he could supply tons of info to you.
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 03:05:28 PM »

I do believe that to be an ATC you have to have a medical certificate as a pilot does but I do not know what class you need. I would guess a second class (which is renewed every two years) or a first class medical (renewed every year.) I am a private pilot so I just have a third class. For a Commerical cert. you need a second and ATP you need a 1st so if anyone knows please tell me b/c I am interested also.

I also say that the max age is 31 to be hired as an ATC. But you are a teen so you have no problems.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2005, 10:54:09 AM »

You need a second-class.  CCBC recommends getting a first class, but it isn't necessary.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2005, 11:01:27 AM »

You only need a Second Class at CCBC if you're going through the terminal program.  The EnRoute program has no such requirement (unless it is incidental to the Private Pilot Course).
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2005, 04:48:53 PM »

You need a 2nd class and it has to be renewed every year.

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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2007, 03:51:27 PM »

I do believe that to be an ATC you have to have a medical certificate as a pilot does but I do not know what class you need. I would guess a second class (which is renewed every two years) or a first class medical (renewed every year.) I am a private pilot so I just have a third class. For a Commerical cert. you need a second and ATP you need a 1st so if anyone knows please tell me b/c I am interested also.

I also say that the max age is 31 to be hired as an ATC. But you are a teen so you have no problems.

Yes, controllers have to have a 2nd class medical which is good only for ONE year. Also, EKG's after a certain age.
 As far as pilots go: to "fly for hire" you only need a 2nd class medical (along w/commercial cert) which which would also apply to an ATP.   A first class medical is only good for 6 months after which it reverts to a 2nd class for another 6 months and then it becomes a third class.  If you are not flying for hire a 2nd class would be good for 2 years as you stated.
Happy flying....
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 05:25:02 PM »

Well i know this year in Ireland they want (in the Stae Exams)

5 Passes
Maths MUST be passed
2 Higher Level  Subjects

The Above is the Least Requirments so it hard over all in ireland as Shannon_App_121.40 Says
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2007, 11:01:50 PM »

Going to the web site of the FAA, www.faa.gov, and looking for job postings of 2152's will give you an idea of the background the FAA wants you to have, to consider you for hire (at least for this month, it changes frequently). Currently, I think that the only requirement is to be breathing (on your own). Math is one of the strongest areas needed as well as any class that helps to improve your analytical skills. Being a pilot helps in many ways, like familiarity with airports, phraseology, maps and microphones. It also used to add bonus points to your application. Having a job, currently, helps as well. Good study habits, learned early, are a great benefit to doing this job. I've been controlling for almost 20 years, and I still need to learn new things, take new tests, certify on new procedures and equipment, etc. It doesn't end. When I started, the 7110.65 was approx. 1/2" thick. It is now around 2" thick and growing. (There's a lawyer somewhere to blame...) I also believe that some video games increase your ability to scan, multitask, make snap decisions, establish a game plan and modify that plan, constantly. That right there is the basics of ATC. However, DON'T use that as an excuse to go home and play video games 24/7 because some ATC said...! Good luck and may the force be with you, because the FAA won't be.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2007, 07:18:38 PM »

Well i just graduated from a CTI program (UND) and I would highly reccomend it. I am now employed with the FAA and I only had to wait 4 months to get a job. If you have any questions about the process or UND let me know. I thought the program at UND was excellent and I would reccomend it to anyone.
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2007, 12:20:08 AM »

OK here's the scoop... I'm a controller at Chicago Center... You do need a second class medical... there are some differences than a pilot medical (I'm a flight instructor too). Bever college is a good college, I know a lot of people that go there... After you go through the CTI you have to pass a test.  If you pass it they give you some options of what region and facility you want to go to... enroute or terminal... etc... There are a lot more options now than when I got hired in.  After you pass a medical and security clearance, they send you to Oklahoma City for classes.  It's a pass fail test at the end and if you pass, you go to your facility for more training. The whole Oklahoma City training isn't that "real world" but you have to go through it.  The center program I went through took about 3 months.  Like I said before, the whole picture changed since I got hired... The faa management kind of screwed a lot up and there is a big shortage of controllers and they were not on the ball when people needed to be hired so there actually hiring off the street with no air traffic college experience. They will train you all at Oklahoma City. I do recomened a CTI program though as it does make the Oklahoma thing easier.... If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2007, 01:39:53 AM »

Are there any Canadian ATC's on this board?  I would love to be able to 'speak' with one, as I have some questions that I can't find answers to on Nav Canada's website.

Sorry to hijack the thread!
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2007, 04:37:12 AM »

why waste your time and money on a CTI school if the FAA is hireing off the street.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2007, 06:32:05 AM »

Canadian FSS if thats any help.
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