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« on: February 25, 2009, 05:15:32 AM »

Apparently about 30 minutes ago a Turkish Airliner crashed at EHAM. Broke into three.
Listen live on the EHAM feed, sounds pretty intense. I hope there are no serious injuries.

http://alt.liveatc.net/eham2
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2009, 05:41:35 AM »

I reviewed the available streams and can't find the crash aircraft on either of the streams.  Terrible accident though looks like all survived. UPDATE 1245UTC: Now hearing 9 dead, 50 injured.

Only audio of ATC holding aircraft and delaying traffic post-accident.  0900-0930Z is the right time block.  Accident seems to have occurred around 0925Z +/-.

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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2009, 05:44:52 AM »

I wasn't listening live to the feed, but the feed is fixed now to Schiphol tower for the next few hours.


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Live ATC feed from the Netherlands
http://audio.liveatc.net:8012/eham.m3u
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2009, 06:33:40 AM »

Can't access the archives to listen (likely due to volume of interest), but if anyone happens to find comms from THY1951, please post the clips.

Thanks!

Tim
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2009, 06:41:26 AM »

Can't access the archives to listen (likely due to volume of interest), but if anyone happens to find comms from THY1951, please post the clips.

Thanks!

Tim
In the german news they say the callsign was/is "TK1951". Don't know which one is true.
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 06:42:53 AM »

Can't access the archives to listen (likely due to volume of interest), but if anyone happens to find comms from THY1951, please post the clips.

Thanks!

Tim
In the german news they say the callsign was/is "TK1951". Don't know which one is true.

TK1951 and THY1951 are the same thing. Callsign "Turkish 1951"  wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 06:44:05 AM »

oh ok, my bad. sorry Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 06:45:23 AM »

No problem/kein problem!

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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 06:52:15 AM »

I should say that I did hear a partial transmission (not on the clip I posted) from an unidentified aircraft - pilot sounded like he declared a missed approach.  No way to really know if that was the crash plane.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2009, 06:57:35 AM »

servers are overloaded atm. I ca  not get out any archived rec's.

anyone else getting them, i believe it happened 920z - 935z
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 06:58:39 AM »

There is a partial clip linked on the front page.  We do not have any explicit transmissions from the Turkish Air flight.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 07:48:34 AM »

Turkish Airline Flight 1951

According to eyewitness reports, the plane was approaching the Polderbaan runway close to the A9 motorway when its tail began to hang low: 'too low for a landing,' said one eyewitness on NOS radio.

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2009/02/turkish_plane_crashes_at_schip.php

<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Schiphol-overview.png" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e3/Schiphol-overview.png</a>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiphol_Airport

Aviation Herald:
"performed a controlled landing on a field outside Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport while approaching runway 18R ."
"The airplane had been handed off to tower at 09:24Z"
http://avherald.com/h?article=41595ec3&opt=1

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RNW NEWS:
http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/090225-turkish-plane-crash

Dutch T.V.
http://www.nos.nl/nos/voorpagina/

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 07:52:30 AM »

BBC News are reporting 9 fatalities. Not good news ...
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 08:23:47 AM »

light fog, "ok" visibility, no wind, no flames,......no fuel?Huh

tragedy nonetheless.  this type of accident should never happen.  i'm not implying anything, it's just that it should never happen.

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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2009, 08:30:58 AM »

Below is a link to a pic of the airplane. They are claiming 9 dead and 50 injured.

http://www.comcast.net/slideshow/news-general/news-general-20090225-Netherlands.Plane.Crash/

Below is the latest story from my ISP. I find it strange that the headline is "All 134 Survive Plane Crash In Amsterdam"

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090225/EU.Netherlands.Plane.Crash/


The B737-800 was in-bound to Amsterdam from Istanbul's Ataturk Airport as TK1951.

Possible fuel starvation...
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 08:42:20 AM »

Anyone have any audio of this crash?  Not sure what time it was but Schipol is a working feed, right?
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2009, 08:44:22 AM »

Anyone have any audio of this crash?  Not sure what time it was but Schipol is a working feed, right?

Merged into main topic.  There is no audio from the crash aircraft.  This thread can be used to discuss the overall incident.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2009, 08:56:02 AM »


Possible fuel starvation...

who is saying that this early in the game?
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2009, 09:22:10 AM »

You can hear it on archives. Go to the EHAM achive block 0900-0930 ( do not go to EHAM #2) 09mins 51 secs into clip you can hear "Turkish 1951" being cleared "ARTIP then SPL". Then 14mins59secs he checks in with approach and is cleared "SPY.....ILS 18R".
  19min40: left 265 degrees . 22min34 "left 210 cleared approach"
  24min18 : "call tower 118.275 (?)"
  27min13: other aircraft told to go around; alot of background noise in the tower.
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« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2009, 09:36:33 AM »

You can hear it on archives. Go to the EHAM achive block 0900-0930 ( do not go to EHAM #2) 09mins 51 secs into clip you can hear "Turkish 1951" being cleared "ARTIP then SPL". Then 14mins59secs he checks in with approach and is cleared "SPY.....ILS 18R".
  19min40: left 210 degrees . 22min34 "left 210 cleared approach"
  24min18 : "call tower 118.275 (?)"
  27min13: other aircraft told to go around; alot of background noise in the tower.

If someone has time please edit it down and post to the Audio Clips forum...please do not post the entire 30 minute recording.

Thanks,
Dave
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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2009, 09:45:10 AM »

Here is the link for tower chatter, prepared by a friend.



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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2009, 10:17:52 AM »

latest news says about loss power during final phase of approach.(in one of Turkish "serious" TV station). Very unlucky accident.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2009, 10:18:10 AM »


Possible fuel starvation...

who is saying that this early in the game?

Of all the things that could be said 'early in the game', low fuel state is the one that just happens to come to mind the loudest.  Not that it is correct, maybe the pilots had simultaneous heart attacks, maybe there was a bird strike, maybe this, maybe that.  Anyone can say anything this early, that's all Smiley

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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2009, 11:46:45 AM »

Just heard Turkish 1953 land on rwy27. Suprised anyone got on that flight must have taken some persuading.
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2009, 02:13:07 PM »

Sad this happens so close to reaching the airport. Since no emergency was declared I'm going to speculate it was a birdstrike but at this point it could be anything
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