Turkish Airliner Crash

[englishpilot]

Anyone have any audio of this crash?  Not sure what time it was but Schipol is a working feed, right?

[dave]

Anyone have any audio of this crash?  Not sure what time it was but Schipol is a working feed, right?

Merged into main topic.  There is no audio from the crash aircraft.  This thread can be used to discuss the overall incident.

[iskyfly]

Possible fuel starvation...

who is saying that this early in the game?

[synge]

You can hear it on archives. Go to the EHAM achive block 0900-0930 ( do not go to EHAM #2) 09mins 51 secs into clip you can hear "Turkish 1951" being cleared "ARTIP then SPL". Then 14mins59secs he checks in with approach and is cleared "SPY.....ILS 18R".
  19min40: left 265 degrees . 22min34 "left 210 cleared approach"
  24min18 : "call tower 118.275 (?)"
  27min13: other aircraft told to go around; alot of background noise in the tower.

[dave]

You can hear it on archives. Go to the EHAM achive block 0900-0930 ( do not go to EHAM #2) 09mins 51 secs into clip you can hear "Turkish 1951" being cleared "ARTIP then SPL". Then 14mins59secs he checks in with approach and is cleared "SPY.....ILS 18R".
  19min40: left 210 degrees . 22min34 "left 210 cleared approach"
  24min18 : "call tower 118.275 (?)"
  27min13: other aircraft told to go around; alot of background noise in the tower.

If someone has time please edit it down and post to the Audio Clips forum...please do not post the entire 30 minute recording.

Thanks,
Dave

[hknsky]

Here is the link for tower chatter, prepared by a friend.

[hakan737]

latest news says about loss power during final phase of approach.(in one of Turkish "serious" TV station). Very unlucky accident.

[kitsap2]

Possible fuel starvation...

who is saying that this early in the game?

Of all the things that could be said 'early in the game', low fuel state is the one that just happens to come to mind the loudest.  Not that it is correct, maybe the pilots had simultaneous heart attacks, maybe there was a bird strike, maybe this, maybe that.  Anyone can say anything this early, that's all

Tom

[synge]

Just heard Turkish 1953 land on rwy27. Suprised anyone got on that flight must have taken some persuading.

[dgpilot]

Sad this happens so close to reaching the airport. Since no emergency was declared I'm going to speculate it was a birdstrike but at this point it could be anything

[andreblt]

The aircraft never made any radio call after establishing on the ILS. It seemed to just stall out about 3 miles short of the threshold 18R. It landed in a field with its tail first. It fell to the ground almost vertically as reported by eyewitnesses and as can be seen by the relatively short skid marks in the field.
Why the airplanes fell below the Glide slope and stalled is not clear. The remains of the RH engine with its shredded fanblades suggests the engine was running on impact. There were three crewmembers on the flightdeck all of them deceased. Both CVR and FDR are recovered. Keep you posted.

[iskyfly]

The remains of the RH engine with its shredded fanblades suggests the engine was running on impact.

the fan blades of one engine seems to be relatively intact indicating low rpm at time of impact.

[joeyb747]

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who is saying that this early in the game?
[/quote]

Just a guess. Heard from one source that the airplane had performed a go-around. I only heard that form one place...

[joeyb747]

here is another link to the "latest" news...

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090225/NEWS-US-CRASH-AMSTERDAM/

This mentions no possible cause just yet...

[ruud]

If you listen to EHAM1b at 01.46 min, it seems to sound like "missed approach". But who this was I don't know.   



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