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theman280
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« on: September 03, 2010, 05:03:50 PM »

2 crew reportedly killed; jet was seen on fire before it crashed -

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/09/03/uae.plane.crash/index.html?hpt=T2

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38992716/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2010, 11:25:10 AM »

Smoke filled cockpit,unable to see their instruments,trying to land while on fire,a horrible chain of events. Prayers for the families of the crew,and to the people at Brown. 
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 12:15:42 PM »

Info on the FO.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-dubai-crash-sanford-pilot-20100904,0,6783550.story
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 02:49:39 PM »

"The airframe N571UP was only three years old and had accumulated 9977 hours in 1764 takeoffs and landings."

"Aviation sources in Dubai report, that the crew declared emergency reporting a fire in the cockpit shortly after takeoff and attempted to return to the airport's runway 30L dumping fuel. The airplane was seen flying very low at a shallow descent until impact, where the airplane erupted in a large fire ball. Several buildings, apparently all of them under construction, have been set on fire by the crash."

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http://avherald.com/h?article=4307772e&opt=1024

Below is a pic of Boeing 747-44AF/SCD N571UP / 571 (cn 35668/1393) climbing out of PANC in Jan, 2010.

RIP...
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 04:22:29 PM »

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UPS installed a sophisticated sensor and communication system that gave the Louisville ops hq information even before the aircraft crashed.  A fire broke out just forward of the starboard wing.


I don't know, it is still too soon to judge about this accident, but...

The crew consists of two pilots, one has to fly the other trying to find and contain a (possible) fire or smoke.

Knowing firefighters come easily with 40 men to put fires out, how would just one man be able? (The other has to fly the plane)
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 06:40:40 PM »

My thoughts and condolences go out to the families of the flight crew.  May they find comfort in the coming time ahead.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 05:13:08 PM »

The Flight Data Recorder was recovered in good condition today. The Cockpit Voice Recorder was recovered six hours after the crash.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 08:52:54 PM »

I suspect we'll all have a lot to learn by whatever is found on the CVR and FDR.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 09:21:05 PM »

I guess the bright side is that they (the crew) passed away doing what they loved, which most people don't get the chance to do.

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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 04:20:43 PM »

UPS installed a sophisticated sensor and communication system that gave the Louisville ops hq information even before the aircraft crashed.  A fire broke out just forward of the starboard wing.

http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=13114638
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 10:00:53 AM »

"The FAA reported in their Safety Alert for Operators (SAFO) 10017, that the airplane's cargo contained a large quantity of lithium batteries. While the investigation is still underway and the cause of the crash has not been determined, the FAA believes it is prudent to inform operators of this fact as well as remind operators of the characteristics of thermal runaways of lithium batteries. The FAA states further, that the fire suppression agent Halon 1301 found in class C cargo compartments is ineffective controlling lithium metal cell fires. For an earlier SAFO including a video see: How to fight fires caused by Lithium batteries in portable electronic devices."

From the updated avherald article:

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4307772e&opt=0

Also see:

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=431f0863&opt=0

Sounds similar to the crash of Valujet 592, involving oxygen generators...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValuJet_Flight_592
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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2011, 08:54:43 PM »

Preliminary Report has been issued:

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4307772e/0004&opt=0

http://www.gcaa.gov.ae/en/ePublication/admin/iradmin/Lists/Incidents%20Investigation%20Reports/Attachments/16/2010-GCAA%20Accident%20Preliminary%20Report%20B747%20DXB%20.pdf
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