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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2008, 05:01:32 AM »

I am currently listening to EHAM (Schiphol, Amsterdam) and just heard USA 799 check in as US Air 799... Is the callsign change restricted to America?
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2008, 03:54:56 PM »

I am currently listening to EHAM (Schiphol, Amsterdam) and just heard USA 799 check in as US Air 799... Is the callsign change restricted to America?

From my understanding, this should be worldwide.. interesting..

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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2008, 05:16:36 AM »

Schiphol ATC is aware of the callsign change too... and start using Cactus, still sometimes US Air is heard. The pilot threw in a few US-Cactus 799's, nothing special.
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2008, 11:30:05 AM »

You will notice Eagle flights are now using all 4 digits of flight number.  We were using the last 3 digits for a long time.
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 10:24:54 PM »

ASA did the same thing a few months ago.  Comair just changed flight number ranges with DL, but callsigns still drop the first digit and add 1000 to thru flights.
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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2008, 06:13:02 PM »

It looks like this will be addressed on the ATC side.  Starting 9/19/08 the "Cactus" 3 letter ID will be AWE.  USA will no longer be used.  It's like one of those timed brain games where they show you the word BLUE and the print is red and the question is "What color is the word?"  There was a lot of room for error.  Now if we can get the pilots to play along.

Here's the official notice:

  EFFECTIVE: 09/19/2008 – TIME 0800Z

CANCELLATION: 01/15/2009

SUBJECT:  CHANGES TO FAA ORDER JO 7340.2, CONTRACTIONS, CHAPTER 3, SECTIONS 1, 2, AND 3.

THE FOLLOWING ADDITION, CANCELLATION, MODIFICATION TO THE CORPORATE

TELEPHONY AND IDENTIFIER ASSIGNMENTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
THIS CANCELS GENOT RWA 8/20


MODIFICATIONS

COMPANY                                                                                             TELEPHONY                IDENT
FROM: US AIRWAYS (PHOENIX, AZ)                                               CACTUS                       USA
TO :  US AIRWAYS (PHOENIX, AZ)                                                    CACTUS                      AWE


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« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2008, 06:29:36 PM »

I certainly hope they'll inform IATA and ICAO...
http://www.liveatc.net/forums/atcaviation-audio-clips/us-air-andgt-cactus-changed-in-icao-database/msg29036/#msg29036
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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2008, 08:04:50 PM »

"USA" makes so much more sense as an ICAO... oh brother.
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2008, 08:49:58 PM »

"USA" makes so much more sense as an ICAO... oh brother.

In this case, I'd agree.. but to play devil's advocate, the 2nd incarnation of National Airlines didn't resurrect the NAL ICAO code that the old Sunkings used to have.. they went with ROK and Redrock.

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« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2008, 08:27:09 PM »

im glad i don't have them.....

its hard enough that CHQ and EGF are now 4 letter calls signs......ie EGF4199 instead of EGF199.

its So hard to add the 4
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« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2008, 08:32:15 PM »

I think CHQ has always been on a full flight number callsign.  ASA changed theirs to all 4 digits a few months ago, as well as changed their callsign about 3 years ago.
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« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2008, 08:36:34 PM »

I think CHQ has always been on a full flight number callsign.  ASA changed theirs to all 4 digits a few months ago, as well as changed their callsign about 3 years ago.

ASA as in Alaska Airlines (ICAO), or ASA as in Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ICAO: ASQ)?

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« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2008, 09:30:28 PM »

ASA as in Alaska Airlines (ICAO), or ASA as in Atlantic Southeast Airlines (ICAO: ASQ)?

BL.

Eh, touché.  I was talking ASA the airline (EV).  Previously  CAA "Candler" then ACY "Acey" then ASQ "Acey"


I always like the Candler callsigns when I worked ASA flights.  I thought it was an extremely clever callsign.
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2008, 08:10:57 AM »

Just listening to JFK departure 135.900 (8:05 EDT - 17SEP) and a "Cactus" flight advised the controller that they will be switching back to the "US Air" callsign in 2 days. DJ
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2008, 10:42:32 AM »

They will be switching to AWE as an ICAO code, but the callsign will remain Cactus. It would just confuse the hell out of everybody if they changed to AWE, and changed the callsign to US Air! huh
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