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« on: August 12, 2004, 10:38:37 PM »

This is just an opinion, get a list together type post, to see what everyone is really interested in listening, i.e. the feeds they'd most like to see on.  I personally used to live in Miami, and if anyone knows KMIA or has been through there, that place has air traffic like crazy.  Heavies taking off over major highways and tons of ground movements.  If anyone can get KMIA online, please do.  I'd also like to hear Washington/Dulles or Phoenix Sky Harbor one of these days too.  Reply back with what you would like to see.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2004, 11:48:14 PM »

I would like to hear more Michigan airports.  Especially GRR, FNT,BTL and APN (Lots of military traffic).

Some others...

GRB,MSN,DLH
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2004, 12:05:02 AM »

Yeah good point.  If you read the post from the TSgt over at Kadena AFB, in Okinawa he said he's trying to get it hooked up so you can hear all the F-15 traffic over there.  It could be really interesting to hear all the convos for touch-and-go's.  That guy has a good feed too, cause Naha Int'l is just 20 miles from there and that airport has tons of traffic in and out of Okinawa.  

My only thing about smaller airport feeds is that you might need to wait like 10 min. in between responses.  I dont have the time to sit and wait that long hoping to hear a two second response.  I'm not downing your interest in them or anything like that, im just more in favor of a KBOS or KORD feed w/ chatter every few seconds.
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2004, 01:23:47 AM »

I'd love to hear ATC from places I've been and would be interested in working at such as SFO or OAK tower, PDX tower, SEA tower/TRACON, Anchorage Tower/TRACON, and some of the Anchorage Center freqs used between ANC and the Pacific by all the Asian bound traffic.  I think SFO would be particuarly interesting since they "shoot the gap" so often...meaning they depart traffic off 1L/R in between arrivals to 28L/R.  The more complicated airports are always interesting to listen to.  In the long run though, any ATC fascinates me....doesn't take much.  Hopefully if I get out near any of these when I'm working at a smaller facility moving my way up I can set up a feed.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2004, 02:31:56 AM »

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My only thing about smaller airport feeds is that you might need to wait like 10 min. in between responses.  I dont have the time to sit and wait that long hoping to hear a two second response.  I'm not downing your interest in them or anything like that, im just more in favor of a KBOS or KORD feed w/ chatter every few seconds.


Throw a center freq in there... Thats what I did for the TVC feed.  TVC is hopping during the day, and added the fact I have the high altitude Minny Center freq in there, you can hear a lot of Intl traffic.  Pretty much nonstop.
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2004, 03:56:37 AM »

Oh, I completely agree with you about the SFO and OAK sectors/towers/etc.  California is so busy no matter what major int'l airport you are at.  Speaking of which.....someone PLEASE get LAX online....i was reading somewhere online about one of their tower controllers.....he is supposedly one of the top 5 controllers in the US.  I would think listening to him speak could convince any ATC nut to listen in on him.  I know it might be kinda hard to pick him out, but I know the guy at KBOS by his voice now, and ill sit there for 2 hours straight to listen to that one particular guy work.  The reason im so interested in KMIA and LAX is that they get all the US traffic but they also get such a variety of outbound traffic to Asia and Europe that you not only get to hear different planes go in and out, but you get to hear foreign dialect and just that sense of variety instead of the same ol plain out English here in the US.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2004, 01:48:29 PM »

More uncontrolled airfields... reason being that perhaps the inexpreianced on VATSIM and other similar networks will use UNICOM/CTAF properly instead of giving us thier life story, including what they had for breakfast and thier intentions3 hours in the future

"CALLSIGN... at gate 31C taxing to runway 31C IFR to PHX via MZV direct GPS c/m 5000 then up to FL390 expecting ILS runway  ect ect ect ect"  cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2004, 03:21:04 PM »

Oshkosh KOSH and Lakeland Linder KLAL and hartsfield katl
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2004, 04:57:27 PM »

More high altitude sectors, and not so many frequencies on one radio at a time, it makes it impossible to follow the traffic flow when it's busy.

Perhaps operators could concentrate on certain areas at a time, like monitor only Tower on certain days and Approach on other days, instead of everything at once ? Personally I would find this a lot more useful.

Ultimately the best solution would be radios/software that would enable the listeners to control/tune the radios themselves via the internet.

My compliments to the people who set up this site and the many who volunteer their time and radios. Great job !

Cheers,

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2004, 07:16:07 AM »

The current available links are enough to keep anyone busy. Other than that I wouldn't mind being able to listen in on more international airports, US or otherwise. Definitely LAX! And maybe a few major company operational ferquencies at the larger airports. It's getting away from ATC a little but it's still airband. ACARS is great but it lacks that human presence.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2004, 08:03:39 PM »

Adding on to what JetScan said about monitoring only certain frequencies at a time, would be possible to edit our feed's description on the Live ATC Feeds page to reflect what is currently being scanned?

I'm not sure if it would be feasible, but hopefully Dave can give us some insight.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2004, 11:22:35 PM »

I know this is a long shot but I'd like to hear Tracy Municipal Traffic (KTCY - Tracy California -  122.80 I believe). KTCY is an uncontrolled airport 60 or so miles roughly east of KSFO.
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2004, 12:11:53 PM »

waggle: do you fly out of Tracy? i visted there alot along with Columbia, I fly out of LVK. Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2004, 10:06:59 AM »

I've allready started a thread about this in the feeders forum, but, i would like to hear the live ATC feeds from Newark Intl. Airport in NJ
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2004, 10:02:46 PM »

"waggle: do you fly out of Tracy? i visted there alot along with Columbia, I fly out of LVK. Smiley"

I fly out of Tracy but only on my simulator. I am not a real pilot. I confess that the thought of piloting a real plane is both terrifying and exciting but the terrifying part overrides the exciting part. Smiley I suppose I'm waiting for someone to say "Hey, you're good on the simulator. you'll do find in a real plane with a few classes under your belt". Until then I'm just a "wanna be" pilot. Smiley

I have been flying simulators since Flight simulator 1 was availble for the TRS-80 Model I (close to 25 years). I must admit that I am only now concetating on the IFR and ATC aspects of the simulators. Also, I am very fond of flying small aircraft (Cesna Skyhawk) and have yet to master the larger ones (e.g. 747).

Back to the topic of this thread: I probably should get myself a radio. I am only about 2 miles from the airport and should be able to pick up the traffic with no difficulty even with an inside antenna. It's unlikely anyone would host the frequency of such a small airport.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2004, 11:28:26 AM »

Hi from Austria / Europe,
first of all, thanks a lot for creating this great home page! David, well done! If you have the possibility of getting a sponser in Switzerland, Zurich and Geneva woud be great. Listening to ATC is in Switzerland allowed.
I cannot give you an ATC service from Salzburg Airport (it's forbidden) but we have a great web cam:
http://engl.salzburg-airport.com/livecam.html
Salzburg Airport is the second biggest winter charter airport in Europe. High saison (End of December till March)
Have a great time,
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2004, 01:11:00 PM »

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Adding on to what JetScan said about monitoring only certain frequencies at a time, would be possible to edit our feed's description on the Live ATC Feeds page to reflect what is currently being scanned?

I'm not sure if it would be feasible, but hopefully Dave can give us some insight.


I can't offer that at the moment but if you email me changes I can get them up quickly.

-Dave
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2004, 05:57:08 PM »

I just saw someone wanted a EWR feed. Dave, what ever happened to that EWR feed that was gonna be up. Did the feeder back out?

Speaking of MIA, I would eventually like to get a MIA feed and FLL feed. Proabably seperated on two different setup's. I'll keep everyone posted
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2004, 09:15:13 PM »

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I just saw someone wanted a EWR feed. Dave, what ever happened to that EWR feed that was gonna be up. Did the feeder back out?

Speaking of MIA, I would eventually like to get a MIA feed and FLL feed. Proabably seperated on two different setup's. I'll keep everyone posted


Yes, EWR just disappeared.  MIA and FLL would be great if we can get a volunteer!
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2004, 12:16:00 AM »

I'm not complaining here, but would it be possible to get a couple of departure freqs from DTW? Thank you VERY MUCH for a DTW feed!
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2004, 06:53:06 PM »

Dave,

Just wanted to let you know that I am contacting some people in the KMIA area, one especailly who lives no more then 10 min. drive down the road from Miami Int'l who could possibly get you a feed very shortly.  Im sure he'd be up for hosting, but what price are we looking at for an acceptable device to scan KMIA?  Just wanna let him know what he'd have to spend to get KMIA up.  Thanks
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2004, 07:02:03 PM »

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Dave,

Just wanted to let you know that I am contacting some people in the KMIA area, one especailly who lives no more then 10 min. drive down the road from Miami Int'l who could possibly get you a feed very shortly.  Im sure he'd be up for hosting, but what price are we looking at for an acceptable device to scan KMIA?  Just wanna let him know what he'd have to spend to get KMIA up.  Thanks


Decent scanners can be had used for $40-$90.  I tend to like the Bearcat BC-350A's.  They can be had used on eBay for around $50.  The ony other thing he would need is a $5 audio cable from Radio Shack to hook the scanner up to the sound card.  And, depending on how reception is at his location, possibly a $25 outside antenna and about $20 worth of coax cable.  So the total can get to around $100.

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2004, 07:09:27 PM »

Here are some:

http://search.ebay.com/BC350A_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsotrZ2QQcoactionZcompareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearch
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2004, 11:33:59 AM »

Depending on how fancy you want to get, you can very easily make your own antenna with just a length of coax.   Here's what I did with an old piece of ethernet (RG58) cable.  (You can buy 50' of RG58 with BNC connecters for $10-15.)

- Snip the BNC connecter off one end.  Leave the connecter on the other end as it will connect directly to your scanner (make sure your scanner has the appropriate antenna jack of course).

There are two ways to do the next part, the second is easier than the first:

- Measure 21 inches down from the cut end of the cable and slit a opening to expose the center strand.  Pull the center strand out through the hole, so you end up with two 'ears' - 21" of shielding and 21" of core.

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- Cut two 21" lengths off the end of the coax.  Strip out the core of each and toss the shielding - so you end up with two 21" copper wires (or if you have 42" of copper laying around, use that instead).  Strip a couple inches back off the end of the long piece of cable and separate the core from the shielding, so you have two ears, each only an inch or two long.  Now attach your two loose 21" ears to the two stubs.  You can solder or just twist them together securely, whatever works for you.  Don't let them contact each other.

However you do it, the end result is you end up with a long length of coax, with a BNC connector on one end and two 21 inch ears on the other end.  21" is the optimum length to pick up air traffic freqs - it may not work so well if you plan to scan other freqs too.  Stretch the ears in opposite directions and secure it to something, a long piece of wood, a pole, whatever.  It's a good idea to put some silicone or other sealant on the bare metal of your new antenna to prevent corrosion.

I've also read of people doing this with simple electrical cord (like lamp cord), which is MUCH easier to split the ears off.  You just need to figure out how to attach a BNC connector to it.

Or you can just spend the money and buy an antenna.  Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2004, 05:05:29 PM »

There are several airports I'd like to be able to hear:

Los Angeles (LAX)
Saint Louis (STL)
Memphis (MEM)
Cincinnati (CVG)

These are several airports I've passed thru at one time or another.
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