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robyul1
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« on: September 16, 2007, 01:19:49 PM »

Just wanted to throw this one out into the forum and see what people think.  Do you find Boston John good at what he does?  should all controllers have a sense of humor like him, OR do you find him unprofessional, or somewhat babyish?

Post your opinons!  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2007, 02:23:08 PM »

I think he is great. He gets the job done in a busy airport and his humorous style helps ease the tension. I would take his attitude over the opposite (which unfortunately exists more than it should) that other controllers display.

I have never heard any valid argument on why his style is not good, other than "not professional" which doesn't mean anything
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2007, 11:52:57 PM »

I think that all of the large airports need a light-hearted guy like Boston John in the tower.

John does his job well but manages to stay calm even when he's got a whole load of metal in front of him.  He may not use perfect phrasology, but if he's got control of the frequency and gets things done, it shouldn't matter (the N90 controller clip is a good example of that; compare that to "what taxiway do you enter the ramp" at JFK... bad style while utterly confusing the pilot)
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 10:27:09 AM »

Great to listen to. Sounds like he enjoys his job and doesnt mind letting everyone else know he enjoys his job. Im sure at least 90% of the pilots on any given Boston John shift are put into a better mood from his communications. How could they not be? , except maybe for the "speak english" pilot
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 11:44:11 AM »

There's a fine line between easy going and unprofessional but he doesn't seem to me to cross it.  In fact his intentions and instructions seem perfectly clear and quite obviously get the attention and co-operation of his 'audience'. 

I would hate to think that the obvious need for standard phraseology completely wiped out any individuality or the human touch.  Having said that I am sure there are elements within the industry who would disagree and I have a suspicion that if there ever were a serious incident on his watch there would be those who would be looking for ways to point the finger at any breach of 'correct' procedures. 

Imitators should beware that only the genuinely talented can hope to get away with what could be considered by some to be unprofessional behaviour. Casualness should never be an excuse for slackness and standard procedures have been created for a reason.  That reason should always be 'safety first'.
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 01:27:30 PM »

Like most ppl on this forum, I'm a huge Boston John fan.

It's worth mentioning that while he injects a lot of humorous, casual chatter on the frequency, his actual INSTRUCTIONS are phrased correctly (if memory serves).

There's usually a funny prefix on the callsign, or a funny comment at the end, but from what I recall, he doesn't jack with the instructions themselves, and I suspect that's why he has so few detractors.

Compare, "It's not rocket science, it's JET BLUE....232. Boston Tower, wind xxx at yy, rwy zz cleared to land" with, "Jet Blue 232, you're cleared to land, rwy xx"

The first is a typical Boston John line...funny prefix, spot on phraseology for the instruction.  The second is a casually (and incorrectly phrased) landing clearance which I've heard on the air from time to time by other controllers.

The other talent he has is dialing back the gags when time is tight.  Good stuff.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 02:01:33 PM »

I'd bet that the majority of people who love him are pilots and especially the listeners here, while most controllers think he's a bit of a knob.  The perception on one side of the microphone can be entirely different than the other side.  The Canadian controller who says 'ROGG' after every transmission is or was the smoothest sounding guy who was working Toronto Approach/Departure at the time, and friends of mine who flew in and out of the area swore he was the best.  I was surprised when I had the chance to visit the Control Tower and Radar Room at Toronto that he was...how shall I say, not well received well by his peers.  So for entertainment value (eg at this website) I guess John is good, but it says nothing about how good he really is at what he does.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 01:32:25 PM »

I'd bet that the majority of people who love him are pilots and especially the listeners here, while most controllers think he's a bit of a knob.  The perception on one side of the microphone can be entirely different than the other side. 

Well being a controller I haven't had the luck to work with Bos John but he would be a controller I would love to work with because of what was said earlier.  He brings ease to a stressful enviornment..  Keep up the good work John
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2007, 02:23:35 PM »

Boston John can be heard on the Boston Tower feed, right?
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2007, 02:49:44 PM »

Boston John can be heard on the Boston Tower feed, right?

Pretty much any of the Boston Local controller feeds. He won't always be working Tower. Nor do we know exactly when. So tune in and tune in often!

BL.
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2008, 07:03:21 PM »

He's a great guy.

He really gives you a good mood, even if you're just listening in through the web from as far away as I am. (from France, in the french alps)

I guess the pilots get a god mood too when they hear him, he just makes your day, some people have this in them, and he's one of them, it's really nice that we can all benefit from it.. long live the Internet !

And, yes, all ATC in Boston are nice to hear too wink , seems there's a good feeling at that ATC "center" (or whatever it's called).
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 04:31:28 PM »

It's nice to hear someone with some humor and fun in a business thats usually always serious and uptight. (which im glad it is, b/c there is lives at stake!!!)   

Its great to hear someone who flat out loves his job, the work he does, while makin it more enjoyable for others too!  (except for that "Speak English" pilot)!  lol

-NAplaya
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 10:08:59 AM »

I wish they could talk like he does.

i bet he has a few years in the agency!

hell.....i say ANYTHING more than the prescribed phraseology the QA guy is on me.

sometimes i let things slip....and pilots love it!

i think they like the more relaxed atmosphere sometimes....compared to the rigid instructions they are used to hearing.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 04:13:31 PM »

Can he be heard controlling these days? If you catch him please notify... Thanks Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2008, 08:19:52 PM »

This is a video I shot while doing a maintenance taxi at BOS,   ,Is that John?
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