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« on: April 10, 2008, 05:46:05 PM »

Might be a stupid question, but I've heard several times in the KJFK feeds that they close down Robinsville in the NY sector for a short period of time, resulting in delayed departures for some flights with vectors through RBV, and my question is, why do they restrict it? Does it have to do with landing traffic on airfields nearby? I'm a newbie so I don't have too much knowledge about this. Would be interesting to hear an answer grin
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2008, 06:10:42 PM »

Might be a stupid question, but I've heard several times in the KJFK feeds that they close down Robinsville in the NY sector for a short period of time, resulting in delayed departures for some flights with vectors through RBV, and my question is, why do they restrict it? Does it have to do with landing traffic on airfields nearby? I'm a newbie so I don't have too much knowledge about this. Would be interesting to hear an answer grin
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It can usually be due to traffic saturation in the New York Center sectors surrounding Robbinsville VOR - Sector 55 in particular. You'll hear it more often in the summer when they "shut down" exits that may have convective/mesoscale areas of storms around exits meaning the Command Center hands it to the Centers who hands it to the Tracon which then obviously lays in the hands of the ATCT to have to increase the Miles In Trail in which they are receiving aircraft over the gate/exit. Those are usually the two main reasons - Im sure other people will add a few more reasons they know.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 03:03:46 AM »

system failing/planned outages can also cause flow control or the shutting down of sectors. if you have a radar go down your standards increase and you just can't fit as many planes in the same airspace cause you protect more airspace for non-radar. i know someone is going to say "well do you got back ups for system failures?". haha we have a direct power line that feeds our building, back up diesel generator that can run for 3 days before refuelling, that’s backed up by a battery generator that can run for a day or something. with all the back ups to back ups, our building has lost power 3 times in the last about 4 years. on wed. some back hoe cut a fiber optics line somewhere between winnipeg and thunderbay. because of that and everyday outages i had to work with these outages. terminal freq was lost so had to run there airspace, one high freq lost, weather info not being updated for over 2 hours, singal source radar, one tacan out, survey work being done on a runway, ils approach notam'd, vor approach notam'd, 2 phone lines to airports were out, internet down and another radar unrealiable. but thats what makes the job fun.
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 07:50:12 AM »

That's not fun, that's unneccessary workload.  As usual inadequate backups.
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