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UKflyer247
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« on: September 17, 2009, 03:53:25 PM »

Why oh why are there no UK feeds available, we have some great airports and traffic but unable to share with everyone else, any news on whether this situation will change over here anyone? huh
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2009, 04:45:09 PM »

http://www.liveatc.net/forums/frequently-asked-questions-(faq)/why-don%27t-you-have-feeds-from-the-u-k/
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 06:50:53 PM »

There are, or at least used to be a couple of UK feeds lingering around. But its a question of finding them.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 12:03:15 PM »

I would like to go live there, to be able to feed it, because I´m sure more than 20 people would like to listen to it because I feed puebla airport (Mexico) and rarely listener count goes over 7... (not my fault activity is low) but hope this changes soon...  angry
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2009, 12:36:23 PM »

Possible Reasons
They have something to fear or hide?
They have not found a way to tax or charge for it?
They believe it would be security risk?
Those who have tried have been told to stop it?
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2009, 04:33:37 PM »

Possible Reasons
They have something to fear or hide?
They have not found a way to tax or charge for it?
They believe it would be security risk?
Those who have tried have been told to stop it?

that's a question for OFCOM, and Parliament. So what needs to be done is for citizens there to lobby their reps in the House of Lords/House of Commons to have that portion of the British Telephony Act to be repealed. Until then, there is nothing legally that can be done.

BL.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2009, 06:51:54 PM »

I would really love to see some german airports feeded too, is there any possibility or is it illegal as well? It would be so cool if there were any, I am sad there are apparantly none...
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2009, 02:13:46 AM »

I would really love to see some german airports feeded too, is there any possibility or is it illegal as well? It would be so cool if there were any, I am sad there are apparantly none...

There were some before.. I distinctly remember seeing one for EDDK, and EDDL. Obviously, they are no longer available..

BL.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 07:22:42 PM »

It is apparently illegal in Germany.

I am working on a way to get live streams cleared throughout all European countries that currently appear to not allow them.  No ETA.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2009, 07:42:46 PM »

It is apparently illegal in Germany.

I am working on a way to get live streams cleared throughout all European countries that currently appear to not allow them.  No ETA.


Goodluck Dave. If you pull it off, you'll be a hero!
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2009, 08:19:41 PM »

I wish you good luck also, I really don't understand why it would be illegal, what could possibly be done with these feeds, that could harm them in any way or could be used illegally. Well, I hope some time there will be german feeds (again)  cool
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 02:37:08 AM »

I wish you good luck also, I really don't understand why it would be illegal, what could possibly be done with these feeds, that could harm them in any way or could be used illegally. Well, I hope some time there will be german feeds (again)  cool

It's illegal because of the wording that the powers-that-be in those countries use in the law. They specifically state that it is illegal to rebroadcast any transmission that is not intended for you. So in this case, ATC would only be intended to be heard by the pilot and other ATC. I'm not sure on the actual wording as far as scanners go at an airport, but that is the main jist of the law.

BL.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 04:07:19 PM »

For those looking for a german feed here is frankfurt approach i found it by chance. http://ottiof.camstreams.com/  enjoy.

Mike.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 06:07:04 AM »

HiYa

In the UK it is illegal to listen:
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/ra/publication/ra_info/ra169r7.pdf

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