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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2005, 02:53:30 PM »

Yea, your pretty much right. Any of the ABE arrivals from ORD/DTW go to 132.875, sometimes 128.575. Then 124.625 which is most of the time combined with 134.8/ 124.9
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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2005, 03:47:00 PM »

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Yea, your pretty much right. Any of the ABE arrivals from ORD/DTW go to 132.875, sometimes 128.575. Then 124.625 which is most of the time combined with 134.8/ 124.9


Thanks for the info. What about PHL departures on the low altitude route via PTW.PTW320.V499 (to ELM,ITH,BGM,etc.) on 124.625, sometimes they get the handoff to 133.500 and other times 128.500. Are 133.500/128.500 merged sectors or is there a vertical split in there as well somewhere ?

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2005, 03:57:20 PM »

i was wondering also why 128.5 was active(usual a standby freq for NYCARTCC).Ed correct me if I am wrong here but I do believe from 124.625 they get handed off to 134.45/133.35. Traffic going into CLE CENTER out west they get handed off to 132.875 after 124.625 then to 119.725/133.075 depending on cruise altitude. I have at times heard EWR and LGA traff normally on 133.5 be also on 124.625(during slow times) and on 128.5
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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2005, 04:05:52 PM »

128.5 and 133.175 are both new sectors. I will have to get an update for my sector map. So all I know is that 133.175 is next to LRP26 (133.675). I have no clue where 128.5 is. Those PHL PTW departures, normally go 124.625, 133.35. I have never heard a handoff to 134.45, I assume that CFB50/ 133.35 and LHY51/ 134.45 are combined 95-98% of the time. Or just that they don't like to flow traffic northbound from 124.62 to 134.45.
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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2005, 04:12:07 PM »

ah hah
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2005, 05:24:47 PM »

NY ARTCC publishes a map/guide for pilots every two years. You can get the latest one at http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/ZNY_LTA0401.pdf
With regards to frequencies, they'll sometimes use backup frequencies. On the map you'll notice #66 is 134.55, yet most people will know it as 128.3.
I have never noticed them publish backup frequencies, even in the now outdated SOP I have.

If you've never seen what the SOP looks like, you can see several pages of it at the NTSB web site at http://www.ntsb.gov/events/EA990/docket/Ex_3A_attE.pdf

For ZOB, I don't know any official references, but do know that the person who got the ZOB info at this site (pages 1 to 3) http://www.zobartcc.org/zob/sop/zob_chapter3.pdf  got them from the FAA.
The above is LOW, here is HIGH (pages 1 to 2)  http://www.zobartcc.org/zob/sop/zob_chapter4.pdf


Hope the above helps.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2005, 05:30:09 PM »

im clicking on the links and there is nothing happening
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2005, 05:37:55 PM »

Yea, 0401 is the last cycle I have for ZNY. I have seen those Non-Radar position SOP's, pretty cool, but old. And as for those ZOB maps, I told Mike about those. Mike, none of us can help your computer illiterate soul j/k
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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2005, 05:42:36 PM »

HEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I click on the link and 2 seconds later a window opens up and on the bottom left says done but all I Get is a blank Screen Ed evil  wink  huh
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2005, 05:56:59 PM »

Mike...you need Adobe Acrobat Reader.

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2005, 05:58:59 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2005, 07:20:41 PM »

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NY ARTCC publishes a map/guide for pilots every two years. You can get the latest one at http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/ZNY_LTA0401.pdf

Excellent, thanks.

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With regards to frequencies, they'll sometimes use backup frequencies.

For all it's worth I've heard them sub 133.175 for 133.475 in Sector 10 on occasion, I've also heard them use 128.500 in the same area as Sector 73 (132.875).  

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For ZOB, I don't know any official references, but do know that the person who got the ZOB info at this site (pages 1 to 3) http://www.zobartcc.org/zob/sop/zob_chapter3.pdf got them from the FAA.

From the above website the sector maps look okay for ZOB, but some of the frequencies listed are mixed up, some in the wrong sectors, and they're missing quite a few frequencies, like the ultra high sectors.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2005, 07:40:46 PM »

I just timed the feed, and it's delayed 4 seconds. I'll time it later this weekend.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2005, 07:47:24 PM »

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I just timed the feed, and it's delayed 4 seconds. I'll time it later this weekend.


Ed, just a side-note....The phone delay and the connection I have to the internet is also a factor.  Someone with a slower connection such as dial up might have slightly longer delays.  Depends on your connection.
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2005, 06:56:25 AM »

Right on! I grew up a few miles from Lehigh Valley Intl (KABE) I'm sure my pops would love this feed.  Thanks!
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