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Offline MIAMIATC

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2005, 05:58:59 PM »
got it

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2005, 07:20:41 PM »
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NY ARTCC publishes a map/guide for pilots every two years. You can get the latest one at http://web.nbaa.org/public/ops/airspace/ZNY_LTA0401.pdf

Excellent, thanks.

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With regards to frequencies, they'll sometimes use backup frequencies.

For all it's worth I've heard them sub 133.175 for 133.475 in Sector 10 on occasion, I've also heard them use 128.500 in the same area as Sector 73 (132.875).  

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For ZOB, I don't know any official references, but do know that the person who got the ZOB info at this site (pages 1 to 3) http://www.zobartcc.org/zob/sop/zob_chapter3.pdf got them from the FAA.

From the above website the sector maps look okay for ZOB, but some of the frequencies listed are mixed up, some in the wrong sectors, and they're missing quite a few frequencies, like the ultra high sectors.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2005, 07:40:46 PM »
I just timed the feed, and it's delayed 4 seconds. I'll time it later this weekend.

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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2005, 07:47:24 PM »
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I just timed the feed, and it's delayed 4 seconds. I'll time it later this weekend.


Ed, just a side-note....The phone delay and the connection I have to the internet is also a factor.  Someone with a slower connection such as dial up might have slightly longer delays.  Depends on your connection.

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2005, 06:56:25 AM »
Right on! I grew up a few miles from Lehigh Valley Intl (KABE) I'm sure my pops would love this feed.  Thanks!

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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2005, 03:02:09 PM »
I just got home, and noticed the feed has been buffering every minute for the last 15 minutes. Has it been doing that all day? I'm very sorry for any inconvience to anyone and I will try to get this fixed tonight.

EDIT: Ok, feed keeps disconnecting and buffering. It's comin down for the night, Sorry  :(

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« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2005, 05:01:08 PM »
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I just got home, and noticed the feed has been buffering every minute for the last 15 minutes. Has it been doing that all day? I'm very sorry for any inconvience to anyone and I will try to get this fixed tonight.

EDIT: Ok, feed keeps disconnecting and buffering. It's comin down for the night, Sorry  :(


Ed - Occasionally that happens to me.  When I restart and then start the feed it takes a few minutes to get up.  Happens on occasion for me.  Probably on your internet connection end of things.

Dave can enlighten our brains into a more detailed description if time permits.

Jason

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« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2005, 04:11:08 PM »
Feed is back up, let me know if everything is ok.

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« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2005, 04:30:06 PM »
You're the man. Thanks :)

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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2005, 01:56:03 AM »
I know this an old thread, but I'm new here and reading it for the first time.  I work in Area D at ZNY and you guys are pretty close on most of this stuff.  Let me answer a few things I saw in here.

133.5 is sector 74's freq and it's terrible.  We use 128.5 a lot as the backup when they're working on 133.5.  It's a backup freq for the whole area, but we use it mostly at 74.

124.625 (sector 92) is only combined up with 134.8/123.625/124.9 (sector 93) on the midnight shifts or when it's really slow.  Usually it combines up at 8:30 pm or so.

Sector 74 gets combined up with 92 sometimes in the late morning/early afternoon if it's slow.  At night it's the last low altitude sector to combine up around 10:30 or 11.

Sector 92 doesn't give a lot of traffic to sector 51 because it puts them head-on to the PHL jet arrivals around Wilkes-Barre.  I would guess that 50 and 51 are combined less than half the time.

133.17 is a back-up freq for Area A.  They used it for a long time at sector 26 when they were having trouble with 133.67.  

ABE departures westbound go from 92 to 93 if they're staying below flight levels and 92 to 73 (132.875) if they're requesting FL180 or above.

If you guys could listen to 132.875 or 134.8/124.9 it would probably be more interesting than 124.625.  We know you're out there, but we're not sure why.

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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2005, 02:07:56 PM »
Sweet nice to have someone from D, welcome aboard. Do you know the Steins? I know their son, Ethan. I have to go so I will write another reply to the info you posted later.

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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2005, 02:55:01 PM »
Sure, I've known the Steins for about 20 years.  And I was in Oklahoma with Carl, the "Welcome Aboard" guy.

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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2005, 04:22:38 PM »
I gave out this user name and password to a few guys in the Area, so there's is more than one of us using it.  We're waiting for the feed to be back up so we can make a few comments for you to listen to.

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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2005, 10:13:20 PM »
I could have sworn that 92 combined up with 74 like everynight. I always hear 92 running MIP3, and FQM1. 92 isn't the greatest sector, but I'll tell you the same thing I told the B guys. You want me to feed other sectors, get the transmitters moved to Flint Hill or Lansdale, Pa  :P If I could, I would feed all the ZNY sectors with ATC, that would be a kickass feed.  Thanks for the info about 133.17, I had Ethan ask his parents and they weren't sure. I figured it was a backup for LRP26, cause after they started using 33.67 again, 33.17 was never to be heard again. Why don't you get the other guys to join with different names, so then we know who's who. Use your OI's  :D

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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2005, 10:33:07 PM »
A few of the guys are thinking about registering.  I gave them this user name so they could listen to clips without registering.  For now, we like being anonymous since you guys wouldn't know our operating initials anyway.  Boy, if only you could hear the cross talk in the area or what's on the land-lines.  That's where the real entertainment is.

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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2005, 11:17:35 PM »
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A few of the guys are thinking about registering.  I gave them this user name so they could listen to clips without registering.  For now, we like being anonymous since you guys wouldn't know our operating initials anyway.  Boy, if only you could hear the cross talk in the area or what's on the land-lines.  That's where the real entertainment is.


I bet it is!  I always love hearing you guys press the wrong button and give the pointouts and handoff's on the freq.  Provides us listeners chained to our computers <g> (J/K, we love this stuff on the computer) with entertainment for the moment.

Hope things are going well; tell the guys we appreciate all of their posts and visits to the site and forums!

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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2005, 11:45:19 PM »
Tell me about it, I love landline talk. I think thats one of the best parts. Why do you think I post landline clips whenever I can! I wish they ran of frequencies.

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« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2005, 08:42:14 AM »
We were talking last night about how we wish we had clips of some of the greatest clearances we've ever heard.  Things like "Descend like a piano.  Make the houses look bigger."  "The only way you're getting lower is with a parachute."  Another time someone gave a descent clearance and the co-pilot said the captain wanted to stay at FL370.  The controller came back with "The captain can stay there, but you and the rest of the plane start down now."  Nobody remembers who said it anymore, but it should be in the Hall of Fame.  Trainee excuses like "I was just about to do that when you took the frequency from me"  and "Well, it worked yesterday"  would be another good category.

Offline MIAMIATC

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« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2005, 12:24:02 AM »
have noticed the north to south CLE ARTCC IS 127.475,124.325,126.725,121.2,and 124.4. 127.475 is syr dep  and buf,roc,syr arr from south,124.325 is pit arr from 260-240 and then gets handed off to 126.725 also 124.325 is med level traff from wash dc area to buf yyz,and cle,121.2 is pit dep to phl and 124.4 is pit arrival via nesto intersection since i was out in the state college area of penn this week while delivering packasges on my new job also heard rtons opf potomac stuff

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« Reply #44 on: July 23, 2005, 12:30:56 AM »
hello swissdale welcome  and i believe phl dep starts at 126.075-124.625-132.875 toward PSB AND 134.8 OR 133.35 DEPENDING ON DEPARTURE DESTINATION MAN IT'S GREAT TO SEE LIVE CONTROLLERS ABOARD THE FORUM TO ASK QUESTIONS OF GOD BLESS YOU GUYS FOR KEEPING US AFE IN THE AIR

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« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2005, 12:37:56 AM »
SINCE LISTENING TO THE PIT FEED I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE THE PIT DEP'S THAT GO TO LETS SAY PWM TO THE NEW YORK AIRPORT ARE HANDED OFF FROM PIT DEP TO AN UNK FREQUENCY THAT IS BARELY READABLE I WAS WONDERING IF IT COULD BE 126.725,134.475,OR 124.325 ? ANYONE PER CHANCE KNOW I DO KNOW THOUGH THE OTHER CLE ARTCC FREQUENCIES THEY ARE HANDED OFF TO ARE 121.2,128.15,126.95,AND 120.6 BUT THE EWC DEP ROUTING I CANT UNDERSTAND WHICH IS THE FREQUENCY

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« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2005, 01:48:12 AM »
Wow Mike three post in under 10 minutes, 1 1/2 in full caps  :wink:  I doubt they know much about ZOB or ZDC. And FYI, 126.07 is Philly North High and is rarely used. It's 124.35 95% of time.

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« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2005, 03:00:06 AM »
126.075 I hear in the early morning's then turns into 124.625 thereafter. Was listening to potomac approach from 125.425(cle artcc) to 133.65,134.15,123.825 then to 125.525(bwi) and 128.7(dca) also heard indy center 133.775 over the appelton vor and cle artcc over central ohio(119.875,133.3875,and 120.325)

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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2005, 11:24:53 PM »
126.72 is the Clarion sector, 121.2 is the Tyrone sector, and 124.32 is the Bradford sector, all at Cleveland Center.  Clarion and Tyrone are FL230 and below, and Bradford is FL270 and below (at least that's the altitudes at the ZNY boundary.)  134.47 is sector 10 at ZNY, high altitude over Harrisburg.

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« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2005, 07:10:36 PM »
Alright Fella's the ZNY feed is now back up. Now talk to us  :D  Just to let you guys know, since I scan three main frequencies. If you say something and someone on another freq is talking then the scan will stop on them and your transmission will be lost.

Ed

I want to add that the Parke39 sector always give me problems. Simply because in the Pro-95, it just so happens one of the birdie frequencies is 132.1. So that makes that sector scratchy, I keep telling myself I will get a base scanner.