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Ilyushin
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« on: January 04, 2011, 04:14:53 AM »

Hi, I am new to this forum and I want to become an air traffic controller. I will be starting school in February at Mt.Sac in Walnut CA. I am wondering how long would it usually take to get hired and if you complete CTI school do you still have to go through more training set by FAA?
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2011, 05:58:09 PM »

CTI school is only meant to cover the first six weeks of FAA training, which is done at the FAA ATC Academy in Oklahoma City. After completing CTI or shortly before finishing, you have to take the AT-SAT, for which you'd be prepared by a CTI school. After that's done, you have to wait for an invitation to the academy. The latter step has taken between 1 and 3 years after CTI graduation to happen. Yes, this means you'll have more training after completing CTI. Then you are placed in a facility and have to go through their training program as well.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 08:07:00 PM »

Thanks a lot!!!
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 08:09:55 PM »

Hiring right now is backlogged big time, so expect to wait 2-3 years to start at the Academy.  You'll be training well beyond the point of sanity.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 10:58:41 PM »

Hello Colleagues !!! I ATC in Russia. I would like to learn from foreign colleagues about SSR,especially about phrase ''RADAR CONTACT''. What information from the plan should have an atc to use phrase ''radar contact'',for example:position(azimuth and distance),altitude and code of transpoder will be enough?
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2011, 03:31:10 AM »

Hello Colleagues !!! I ATC in Russia. I would like to learn from foreign colleagues about SSR,especially about phrase ''RADAR CONTACT''. What information from the plan should have an atc to use phrase ''radar contact'',for example:position(azimuth and distance),altitude and code of transpoder will be enough?

There are 6 basic ways which controllers can use to establish radar identification. Here they are as described straight from our regulation. http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/atc/atc0503.html#atc0503.html.1

One of the 3 "primary" methods is known as position correlation where the aircraft reports his position and a radar target is observed in that area and the target is following a track consistant with his reported heading or route. It is similar to what you describe but it's not necessary for the aircraft to have a working transponder or know it's altitude.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 06:26:26 AM »

Thanks a lot. It is important information and one more question.When you say ''radar contact'',do you request estimated time FIR boundary(position where ATC must transfer an aircraft to the adjacent ATC),thank you Colleagues !!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 10:00:53 AM »

Thanks a lot. It is important information and one more question.When you say ''radar contact'',do you request estimated time FIR boundary(position where ATC must transfer an aircraft to the adjacent ATC),thank you Colleagues !!!

Generally you do not. In the US most centers are electronically connected to each other. There are "automated" systems which transfer the flight plan information and radar identification from one sector to another while in the same center and between centers (FIR's). Many planes will only be told radar contact once. If the plane will not remain in radar contact by the boundary of the next sector or FIR then a pilot estimate is often asked for.
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 02:20:47 AM »

I agree with you Sykocus,but..... There are many ATC centers with old equipment in Russia,especially in syberia  .Computers in our centers  do not connected with adjacent centers.But I cannot understand,why I cannot  say "RADAR CONTACT"  if my equipment cannot estimate transfer point , I observe aircraft,altitude,Squawk.OK I will wait when we will work on modern the equipment  grin grin grin
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 04:47:11 AM »

 Hi  colleagues !!!! I would like to know, what does it meen phrase  <I read you last form>
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 12:02:59 PM »

Be careful about using regulations from a different state operationaly. If your looking for definitions or explanations I'd suggest you consult PANS-ATM and your own national and local rugulations first.

The term "radar contact" may have a different meaning in Russia.

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