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awpincus
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« on: October 15, 2010, 06:09:43 PM »

Ok slow day on the forum, so I figure I'll ask a question, as I'm getting ready to do some tower work at a small class "D" airport.

If you land and come to  a complete stop and want to take off again and remain in the pattern, what's the phraseology. I just can't find it anywhere in the readings.

My guess is that you contact ground, tell them where you are at and that you want to take off and remain the pattern, then do the same to the tower when you are #1 for takeoff. Is it that simple?

If you land w/ the option and wish to remain in the pattern, do you just request the option and tell the tower you'd like to remain in the pattern??
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2010, 07:00:23 PM »

If you want to come to a complete stop there are two methods:

1. Stop and go (if you're cleared for the option, you are cleared for four things: full stop, touch and go, stop and go, and low approach)

2. Full stop taxi back (where you would exit the runway, request a taxi clearance to the departure runway, and then depart once again)

So you can either request the option or full stop and just advise them what your intentions are (either stop and go or full stop taxi back).

Hope this helps.

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Jason
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2010, 12:39:47 AM »

"Closed Traffic"

"remain in pattern" works just as well.

Pilot: "Tower, Cessna 123AB to land, full stop."
Tower: "Cleared to Land number 2, winds 210 at 6kts"

At smaller, single runway D's tower will either ask what you want, or wait for you to tell him and keep you on his frequency. At Santa Monica it goes like this:
Pilot: "Tower, 3AB taxi back 21"
Either with ground or tower, all you need to say is where you want to go.

When holding short:
"Tower, Cessna 123AB, short 2-1 ready to go Left/Right closed traffic."
Tower will then assume you want the option for each circuit, and give you instructions to either report midfield, or may just call you at his leisure (always a good idea to report midfield anyway).  If you need to change it up, let the tower know next downwind.
"Tower, 3AB would like full stop"
"Tower, 3AB touch and go"
"Tower, 3AB after touch and go, left/right downwind/crosswind departure to the [direction]"
(At Santa Monica we have a local op, "right turn at the shoreline" which works, e.g. "Tower, 3AB would like right turn at the shoreline after this touch and go"

It REALLY is as simple as you though. The phraseology is "closed traffic"

(Remember, this gets more complicated if you made a full stop at a class C airport - be sure to check all your local noise procedures and common routes)
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 08:29:35 AM »

If you want to come to a complete stop there are two methods:

1. Stop and go (if you're cleared for the option, you are cleared for four things: full stop, touch and go, stop and go, and low approach)

2. Full stop taxi back (where you would exit the runway, request a taxi clearance to the departure runway, and then depart once again)

So you can either request the option or full stop and just advise them what your intentions are (either stop and go or full stop taxi back).

Hope this helps.

Best,
Jason

Sir, is a low approach simply what it says - you are flying lower than normal on the approach?
Thanks!
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 01:31:01 AM »

The FAA definition is as follows:

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LOW APPROACH - An approach over an airport or runway following an instrument approach or a VFR approach including the go-around maneuver where the pilot intentionally does not make contact with the runway.
The pilot is expected to conduct the final approach without actually landing. It's pretty self explanatory  grin.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 11:45:10 PM »

Sir, is a low approach simply what it says - you are flying lower than normal on the approach?
Thanks!

StuSEL has it right. Just to add, consider it a normal landing except you break off at your decision point.

Ok slow day on the forum, so I figure I'll ask a question, as I'm getting ready to do some tower work at a small class "D" airport.

If you land and come to  a complete stop and want to take off again and remain in the pattern, what's the phraseology. I just can't find it anywhere in the readings.

My guess is that you contact ground, tell them where you are at and that you want to take off and remain the pattern, then do the same to the tower when you are #1 for takeoff. Is it that simple?

If you land w/ the option and wish to remain in the pattern, do you just request the option and tell the tower you'd like to remain in the pattern??

Jason is right on. Class D airspace near me however is a level 8 and can be extremely busy. If I were doing anything other than a low approach or touch n go on a busy day, it's appreciated to let tower expect someone stopping on the runway.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2011, 06:21:32 PM »

Pilots focus on keeping the aircraft flying and dealing with the situation using all available resources, which includes but is not limited to backup equipment, checklists, contacting ATC, contacting maintenance if their company has a line to them, and relying on their training to take care of whatever comes up.
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