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kitsap2
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2010, 04:43:22 AM »

It's not an exact science.  "Cleared Direct", is mainly a way of getting you headed where you want to be going.  It will normally be part of your flight plan.  If "cleared direct" to the name of an airport, which is also the name of the vor, even if not co-located, I, as a controller, would expect you to fly directly to the airport.  Besides, you're going to be vectored and sequenced to final before you reach the airport/vor.  And if it's a busy area, you'll be put on an arrival/star.  Unless you're flying in a non-radar environment.  Then, the control instructions will be a lot more precise, for very different reasons.

When receiving a hand-off from the center, and the controller tells me, "so and so's direct [place name here], descending to 10,000, I expect the aircraft to be heading directly to the field, even though the vor/navaid is a couple of miles away.

Hope this helps un-muddy the waters Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2011, 02:55:02 PM »

If you clear someone to an airport, then you specify just that. VOR or VORTAC the same.

I used to work that airspace at AEX.

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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2011, 09:56:18 PM »

This is so simple.  If the controller does not say "airport," he does not mean airport.  How could anyone possibly confuse this??? If you are cleared "direct Alexandria," it means the VORTAC. Period.
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 11:38:56 AM »

This is so simple.  If the controller does not say "airport," he does not mean airport.  How could anyone possibly confuse this??? If you are cleared "direct Alexandria," it means the VORTAC. Period.

Not really buying it, especially with how much ATC instructions are so scrutinized. If I didn't hear 'airport' explicitly, as PIC, I would ask for clarification. Something like this doesn't have much leeway, if at all, for assumptions.

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