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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2007, 11:40:52 AM »

HAHa so your about 63 miles south on V181 been to Fargo several times. 
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Yep thats where FAR is, I think you and almost all of the other UND students have been here, on days where it is nice it can get pretty crazy here. There have been a few days where I have seen 6 or 7 in the pattern. Not to mention along with a few IFR arrivals.
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« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2007, 06:54:13 PM »

Yep thats where FAR is, I think you and almost all of the other UND students have been here, on days where it is nice it can get pretty crazy here. There have been a few days where I have seen 6 or 7 in the pattern. Not to mention along with a few IFR arrivals.
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Whenever im down there and hear so many other UND aircraft im somewhat hesitant to call in with yet another UND aircraft not knowing how the controller will respond as they already seem pretty frustrated and busy as it is.  At least you dont have 2 parallel runways to work like they do in Grand Forks where like you said on a clear day it gets super busy. 
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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2007, 10:38:12 AM »

Whenever im down there and hear so many other UND aircraft im somewhat hesitant to call in with yet another UND aircraft not knowing how the controller will respond as they already seem pretty frustrated and busy as it is.  At least you dont have 2 parallel runways to work like they do in Grand Forks where like you said on a clear day it gets super busy. 

There are only two things that frustrate me with the Sioux birds, first on initial call, when they dont tell us where they are, where they are going, etc, and then we have to play 50 questions with them. The second is the Air China students, its just so hard to understand them!
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2007, 04:01:07 PM »

Whenever im down there and hear so many other UND aircraft im somewhat hesitant to call in with yet another UND aircraft not knowing how the controller will respond as they already seem pretty frustrated and busy as it is.  At least you dont have 2 parallel runways to work like they do in Grand Forks where like you said on a clear day it gets super busy. 

There are only two things that frustrate me with the Sioux birds, first on initial call, when they dont tell us where they are, where they are going, etc, and then we have to play 50 questions with them. The second is the Air China students, its just so hard to understand them!

LOL!!! Those air china students are funny.  No disrespect to them but wow they really dont speak very clear english at all.  When I was out around Grand Forks one of the controllers could not understand one kid for nothing and asked him to repeat I think 3 times.  Finally the controller asked if another person was onboard to handle ATC because he was "unreadable" as they said.  Its almost a safety concern especially if they go on solo X/C's to places outside of our area as other controllers are probably expecting people who speak some clear english.  Another time we were landing 35's in Grand Forks, so one of the asian students I guess confused enters a downwind for 17 which caused alot of confusion.  I guess we just have to deal with them but I think as time goes on you get used to it and can understand what they are saying better.  Not sure how many there are but I feel like they out number the regualar aviation students.
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2007, 11:46:45 AM »

 When's the last time you had 8 airplanes all on a vector at the same time?  Not that either one's harder, it's just different.

Everytime the weather goes down in Chicago I have 8 planes being vectored at once. I work an area at ZAU that include both high alt enroute and center arrival for ORD from the NE...trust me, I vector!! HA HA

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« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2007, 05:15:00 PM »

I would say that in the terminal environment, I have more than 8 aircraft on vectors frequently.  Any major airport will have that many being vectored to final all day long.
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« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2007, 06:57:39 PM »

When's the last time you had 8 airplanes all on a vector at the same time?  Not that either one's harder, it's just different.

Everytime the weather goes down in Chicago I have 8 planes being vectored at once. I work an area at ZAU that include both high alt enroute and center arrival for ORD from the NE...trust me, I vector!! HA HA



every time iam vectoring arrivals at ORD or MDW, by the way i spent 20 years in the north east area.
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« Reply #32 on: December 24, 2007, 12:03:44 PM »

20 years in the NE Area, wonderful!!!  When did you leave?
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« Reply #33 on: December 24, 2007, 06:05:01 PM »

20 years in the NE Area, wonderful!!!  When did you leave?

it wasnt that wounderful, and if you dont know who i am you must be a newbee.just ask oley ,the brain, jay bags , jay paul, the getch bbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrhk, there will be many stories to go around.
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« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2012, 07:22:02 PM »

Gentlemen,  When a controller says cross 10 north of a VOR and you were previously cleared to the vor as part of the route, is simply a short cut to the  next fix
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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2012, 08:16:33 PM »

Gentlemen,  When a controller says cross 10 north of a VOR and you were previously cleared to the vor as part of the route, is simply a short cut to the  next fix
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