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peterdeon
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2009, 09:48:35 PM »

Back in the 70's or early 80's there was a midair when the drug intodiction planes  were practicing on a civillian aircraft and as a result of that there was an order that military aircraft were not to use civilian aircraft for such practice. 
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2009, 05:56:36 PM »

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Your pilot comment is laughable, Either you have no idea about real world Aviation or you work at a FSDO. I have seen thousands of Pictures that pilots have showed me of landmarks, Other Aircraft, and of each  other messing around on the flight deck. These are pilots with Commercial and ATP ratings. Everything is not always done by the book.

I'm sorry, but isn't that what the pilots en route to KMSP did?  Chilling on laptops is certainly not "by the book" and they were ATP's.  Now, their careers are down the toilet.  What's laughable is your seeming denial of the dangers this F-16 situation caused. 

Personally, I'm going to leave out the taking of pictures and messing around on the flight deck that you described.  I think I'd rather be fully situationally aware of what's going on, as should ALL pilots. 

But that's just me.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009, 11:37:49 PM »

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Your pilot comment is laughable, Either you have no idea about real world Aviation or you work at a FSDO. I have seen thousands of Pictures that pilots have showed me of landmarks, Other Aircraft, and of each  other messing around on the flight deck. These are pilots with Commercial and ATP ratings. Everything is not always done by the book.

I'm sorry, but isn't that what the pilots en route to KMSP did?  Chilling on laptops is certainly not "by the book" and they were ATP's.  Now, their careers are down the toilet.  What's laughable is your seeming denial of the dangers this F-16 situation caused. 

Personally, I'm going to leave out the taking of pictures and messing around on the flight deck that you described.  I think I'd rather be fully situationally aware of what's going on, as should ALL pilots. 

But that's just me.


There are some Pilots out there that are strictly by the book. There not very well liked pilots but there buy the book. Iv'e heard of pilots falling asleep, Buzzing campers, doing rolls in A/C having fun. It can go both ways.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 03:42:14 PM »

im not saying the F16 pilots were not at fault, but we hear all the time about how the vfr GA traffic is buzzed by military.  the radar the 16s have is not as good as what is on newer jets and dont have TCAS.

AN/APG-66 and 66(V)2 and the AN/APG-80 is a LOT more capable than ANY TCAS or TCAD system out there. You know of any pulse-doppler radar based TCAS systems out there that have track while scan capability and can slave an AIM-120's or AIM-7's on board radar to the target, and can do all of this without needing a transponder to track?

There is a reason why the US Customs and USCG use the APG-66 on board their Falcon, Citation and Cheyenne aircraft.
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2009, 12:11:24 PM »

These F-16s are from a training base.  they dont exactly get the new and improved gadgets and gizmos that pilots in the war get.
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