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 on: March 26, 2015, 08:19:50 AM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by Magoomm
Perhaps one of the pilots became incapacitated and the door was locked. Massive heart attacks happen far more frequently than rogue pilots.

Couldn't agree more.  It is best to wait for the investigators to thoroughly evaluate all of the factors in this accident.  I trust them far more than the NYT or CNN quoting an anonymous source.

 on: March 26, 2015, 08:05:30 AM 
Started by d-man - Last post by d-man
Hello, everyone! Can anybody help me with this question? Is there any malfunction from MEL (for instance on airbus a320) which can affect fuel consumption? It is required for my diploma paper. I need to compare routine flight and with MEL relative to fuel consumption
Thanks a lot!

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 on: March 25, 2015, 11:11:33 PM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by anuoldman
Perhaps one of the pilots became incapacitated and the door was locked. Massive heart attacks happen far more frequently than rogue pilots.

If it was a:
1- massive heart attack or other health problem and
2- it happened to occur after the PIC locked the door and
3- the PIC happened to slump perfectly over to initiate a straight line decent and
4- it happened during the 2 minutes one pilot is in the head
5- and the emergency code to gain entry didn't work or was changed or the pilot didn't know it

well... it might not be more common than rogue pilots....  dunno

In the article, another investigator strongly hinted at the rogue scenario.
we'll see

 on: March 25, 2015, 10:22:12 PM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by woofcat
Perhaps one of the pilots became incapacitated and the door was locked. Massive heart attacks happen far more frequently than rogue pilots.

 on: March 25, 2015, 09:47:50 PM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by anuoldman
NYtimes is reporting that an investigation source says one pilot was locked out of the cockpit and when he discovered it, he knocked and with no response started trying to smash the door down


WOW....  looking like an intentional crash

 on: March 25, 2015, 08:38:51 PM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by joeyb747

CNN is reporting one of the pilots may have been locked out of the cockpit...

 on: March 25, 2015, 06:12:58 PM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by joeyb747
Looking at Flightaware data..plane was in a rapid descent with airspeed decreasing indicating a controlled descent perhaps with speed brakes deployed.  In the last few second they got real low and slow with airspeed less than 150 kts with direction course varying from Northeast to southeast.  Must have been disoriented.. The pilot was reported to have squawked 7700 prior to descent.  Equipment failure seems the most likely then IMC disorientation?

I had heard that there was a 50 kias or so variance during the climb out, but not on the decent. I had not heard that the aircraft slowed to as low as 150 kias on the decent. This is far below clean stall speed in the A320, if i am not mistaken. In fact, radar tracks show the opposite, see the latest from AvHerald. The article indicates the aircraft impacted the ground at a high rate of speed. Radar track does not indicate the turn you mention either... Where did you hear that? Flightaware shows the path continuing northeast:


On the Track Log, the ADS-B Data in incomplete, and is "ESTIMATED"...

The 7700 squawk is unconfirmed as well at this time. ATC declared a MAYDAY on the aircraft's behalf after they descended below safe altitude.


"On Mar 25th 2015 France's Minister of Interior reported that the recovered black box was the cockpit voice recorder. The CVR is damaged but usable.

On Mar 25th 2015 the French BEA reported in a press conference, that the aircraft was following its planned flight path. After cruising at FL380 for a little while the aircraft began to descend at about 09:30Z at a rate of 3500 fpm. The last radar position recorded by French ATC was at 6175 feet MSL at 09:40:47Z very close to the point of impact. The aircraft impacted ground at very high speed. The CVR was found on site at about 17:00L and handed over to the BEA, at 09:45L on Mar 25th the memory module was removed from the part left pretty much intact, there were some problems reading the data, but the BEA have been able to extract the audio file that can be used. This concluded the official part of the BEA press conference. In the questions the BEA reported, they have been able to listen to the audio for a first time, but having the audio only for a few minutes prior to the press conference are unable to make any further statement. The debris and distribution of debris does not suggest there has been any explosion on board of the aircraft. When confronted by journalists with rumours originating in Finnish media quoting Finland's CAA about a burst windshield, the BEA said they have no such information."


 on: March 25, 2015, 05:05:46 PM 
Started by ex_XJT_aus - Last post by ex_XJT_aus
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 on: March 25, 2015, 04:34:06 PM 
Started by johnm1019 - Last post by InterpreDemon
I doubt IMC taking them down from cruise altitude. Looks to me like another case of a "100% reliable" HAL 9000 taking down a fly-by-wire Airbus and, just as we saw with Air France over the Atlantic, my prediction is that the CVR will show the crew discussing various aspects of the law as they held nose-high in a stall for eight or ten minutes throughout the descent. Loss of power would have absolutely resulted in a MayDay call, but confusion, distraction and disorientation are seldom acknowledged outside the cockpit, especially with veteran pilots. Just another reason why I am always uncomfortable riding in any fly-by-wire aircraft that is not equipped with ejection seats.

If you think I sound angry, it's because I am... ever since I saw that Airbus fly into the trees after a low pass at a French air show (HAL wouldn't let them spool the engines back up with the gear down) in the late 80's I have never believed fly-by-wire to be suitable for commercial passenger aircraft. In almost all cases where these aircraft encounter unanticipated (by the mastermind engineers) circumstances or events and can no longer keep the aircraft in a safe condition or permit avoidance of unsafe conditions, they hand the pilot either an uncontrollable or unrecoverable aircraft.

 on: March 25, 2015, 05:29:40 AM 
Started by rcdavi3 - Last post by dave
It happens to the best of us - don't sweat it!

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